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Anybody else here getting disturbed by noisy neighbours partying into the night on the ladder? Had it a few times recently - complained to council - nothing seems to be happening....

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Lots of fireworks. Which part of the ladder are you referring to?

Cavendish/Burgoyne

At the risk of sounding patronising, have you tried locating which house it’s coming from and asking them to be quieter? I have found this approach to work in the past, even when I thought that they would ignore me. It’s a bit intimidating but most people are really nice and a lot of the time they don’t even realise how far noise can travel.  It helps if you take a small child with you! 

Other neighbours in the same house as me have tried complaining directly to the people concerned - apologies followed by more noise ( Parties/music/ shouting/ singing - 4.30am! )

Sorry to hear that! Poor you- sounds awful 

Hi Paul, we had this issue with neighbour tenants next door having parties throughout lockdown. 
kept complaining directly to them, to the landlord and to the council. (Us and the other flats adjacent) 

It took a few months, but they have been quiet since the council finally got in touch with them. 
I’d just persevere. Its incredibly disrespectful of them.

When this happens near us, we relentlessly report any instance to Haringey Council, either by phone or by online form, simply every time, day or night, as it is happening. You need to know the address it's coming from.

Once they've built up a bit of a case (i.e. with enough complaints by phone or online, or with on-site visits, which they only do Fri to Sun), the ASB Enforcement Team may send a warning letter, which is the beginning of a process to more serious action if the disturbance continues.

It takes time & patience, but may pay off.

In our experience the council don't do anything. We're having issues with a tenant in an unlicensed HMO on Willoughby Road playing loud music day and night – sometimes it comes on in the afternoon, other times it'll start at 2.30 in the morning. (It's right next door to Orange Day Nursery so god knows how they put up with it during the day.) We've filled in the forms for noise nuisance, tried calling the out of hours number and still no response from the council. The noise enforcement team feels like an utter a waste of time.

We've also tried approaching the tenant but he just doesn't give a sh*t.

I had noise problems a few years ago and complaining to the Landlord / Letting Agency seemed to work but of course an HMO may be different.

Saw this vis AppleNews today - copying in case you cant read without an AN sub:

IS OUR NOISY WORLD MAKING YOU SICK?
New research shows excessive exposure to sound could damage your health

We lead noisy ... I said, we lead noisy lives! Loud sounds pound our eardrums every day: traffic, TV, earbuds, the phone, the neighbor’s dog, the kids shooting fireworks even when it’s not July 4. And let’s not forget all the nights spent leaning against the speakers at Aerosmith concerts back in the ’70s.

For the past 16 months or so, many of us have gotten a respite from noise as the world slowed in response to the pandemic. But as life slowly revs back up this summer, it’s a good time to stop and consider just what we stand to lose from an increase in volume. Indeed, loud noise is more than just a threat to your hearing and your quality of life. New research suggests it can seriously damage your health.

NOISE AND DISEASE

Daily noise exposure may figure significantly in your risk of severe stroke, according to a recent study in the journal Environmental Research. Researchers found that living in a noisy area—like a city or next to a highway—increases your risk of severe stroke by 30 percent, while living in a quiet, green area can reduce it by up to 25 percent.

Here’s how it works: An incessantly loud environment stimulates a part of the brain known as the amygdala, which regulates stress response. The brain reacts by increasing blood pressure and levels of a stress-related hormone called cortisol; both are known to cause a host of cardiovascular issues, including stroke, says Douglas M. Hildrew, M.D., medical director of the Yale Hearing and Balance Program. In fact, the American Heart Association warns of an increased risk of heart attack for those who are regularly exposed to excessive noise, the kind found near airports and highways.

Chronic stress is also a well-established contributor to deaths related to immune system suppression, diabetes, arterial plaque buildup (atherosclerosis), psychiatric illness and possibly cancer.

NOISE AND YOUR BRAIN

Exposure to noise slowly murders the critical hair cells within your cochlea that are key to the creation of sound in your brain (although one big blast of noise can cause instant damage as well). The resulting hearing loss increases your risk of cognitive decline, Hildrew says.

“If I need hearing aids and I don’t get them, I may withdraw from conversations because I find them challenging,” he adds.
That’s not a small thing. People with hearing loss tend to isolate themselves socially out of frustration or embarrassment. As a result, they often don’t experience sufficient mental stimulation or social interaction to keep sharp, increasing their risk of cognitive decline, Hildrew says. Now consider that nearly 25 percent of people between the ages of 65 and 74 experience disabling hearing loss, according to the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders. That percentage doubles for those over 75.

THE PURSUIT OF QUIET

As a return to normal life brings with it a return to normal noise exposure, the question is: How loud is too loud? The line where ear damage begins is traditionally believed to be between 85 and 90 decibels (dB), says David Owen, author of Volume Control: Hearing in a Deafening World. That’s about the level of loudness your ears absorb from a gas lawn mower. A blender, a blow-dryer and a noisy restaurant each straddle the threshold of safe listening at around 90 dB. If you’re going to be exposed to this level of noise for extended periods, or anything louder for even a short time, you should wear some sort of ear protection.

Since most of us don’t walk around with a decibel meter, Hildrew recommends simply taking stock of your anxiety level when surrounded by various levels of sound: If it stresses you out, turn it down or find a way to protect yourself. Here are some volume-control tips.
→ Shut car windows. Driving with the windows open may expose you to harmful levels of environmental noise. “Men are more likely to lose the hearing on the left side because they’re more likely to drive with the driver’s side window down,” Owen says.

→ Choose the quiet tacos. SoundPrint, a free app (available for both iPhone and Android), allows users to measure sound-level readings at bars and restaurants and share them with fellow quiet seekers.

→ Fine-tune. If you’re having trouble hearing and want to see how hearing aids might help you, try EarMachine, a free app funded by the National Institutes of Health, which turns your iPhone into a hearing device by amplifying frequencies you don’t hear well and sending to your ears via your wired earphones.

→ Plug it out. Simple noise-blocking earplugs ($5 and up) are an inexpensive way to protect your hearing. Keep a pair in your pocket for when you encounter high volumes. A sampling of products to consider:
Etymotic High-Fidelity Earplugs. Christmas tree–shaped plugs reduce the overall level of sound but maintain almost the full sonic spectrum—unlike regular foam earplugs that disproportionately mute high frequency sounds like birds chirping or the sounds of f, h, s or th in speech, Owen says.

Pluggerz. Silicone plugs for blocking loud music or noise.

Hearos. Squeeze these foam plugs between your fingers and insert into your ear canal, where they expand to provide protection for your hearing.

→ Cancel the noise. Active noise-canceling (ANC) headphones ($120 and up) contain microphones that listen to the ambient noise around you and then use built-in electronics to produce sound waves that cancel out that noise, so all you hear is what’s coming from your headphones. (The noise-canceling feature allows you to play your entertainment device at lower levels; headphones of any kind can still cause damage if you crank up the volume.) Here are three ANC styles:

Bose QuietComfort Earbuds. These earbuds use a combination of active and passive noise-canceling (PNC) technology. The ANC cancels out unwanted noise, while the PNC creates a seal to block it.

Amazon Echo Buds. These sealed in-ear speakers use Bose noise-canceling technology and work hands-free with the Alexa app so you can simply ask your earbuds to stream music, play audiobooks, make calls or play white noise to remedy distractions.
Samsung Galaxy Buds Live. Wireless ergonomic buds with ANC technology can be controlled by your smartphone or adjusted by tapping the earbud to focus and amplify live sounds.

Kimberly Rae Miller writes on health and wellness for a number of national publications.

https://apple.news/AonhZy7xKQGiKksG3HgLt9Q

OK Thanks for your advice - looks like i'll just have to keep complaining everytime they do it!

There was loud partying going on until at least 4am yesterday. Pretty sure if was a house on Effingham Road. I would like to make a report to the council - and would encourage others to do so. Can anyone help me identify the exact address? As I/we will need this for the reports to the council. Thank you.

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