Hopefully you have seen Haringey’s proposals for changes to Wightman Road/Alroy Road (see link at the bottom)
One of the main proposals is to stop pavement parking on Wightman/Alroy. Haringey have estimated that this will lead to the loss of 29% of spaces on Wightman/Alroy and that this loss will be mitigated by Wightman/Alroy residents using vacant parking places on the Ladder rung roads. Haringey estimates that currently, at peak times, 27% of available resident parking places on the rung roads are vacant.
The Ladder Community Safety Partnership (LCSP) will be making a response to the consultation and want to check if this figure is realistic. In order to do this we need to carry out an audit of as many Ladder rung roads as possible to find out if Haringey’s estimate matches the actual situation on our roads.
This will be a simple walk up and down a Ladder rung road, counting the number of parked cars and estimating how many cars can additionally be parked in unused spaces. To give an accurate picture the count will need to be held at the same time on the same day (when parking is at its busiest).
The count needs to be completed in the next two weeks so that the information can be included in the LCSP consultation response. If you think you can help by carrying out a count on your road (or more than one road) please send email me at mxanderson@me.com and I’ll get back to you with more detail.
Many thanks
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the obvious sticking point is on Sunday evenings - when the free parking is used up by people visiting Green Lanes foods outlets (great for them!) and people return home from weekends away and won't be able to locate any parking. I'll bet you they didn't do their count on a Sunday night :) .
Thanks Judith. The time of the count will be crucial so we capture maximum use so, as you said, when most residents are home and visitors are parked up outside CPZ operational times to use local facilities. Ideas on the best time and day are most gratefully received.
Sunday evening (up until midnight-ish) is nighmarish for parking: I often return home with a car full of weekend bits and bobs and have to lug them 100 yards down the road to reach home. During Ramadan I had to park in nearby roads, having had to circulate round nearby roads for a considerable amount of time to find one spot. Also, what happens when the new flats near the mosque become inhabited? I have lived here for over 30 years and it has only recently become so difficult! Thanks for passing on .....
Totally agree. Sunday night is consistently the time when I struggle to find a place to park on my road (Allison)
usually they're taken by those of us from Hewitt who can't find anywhere on our road either!
There might be a problem in that Haringey could say the results are not statistically valid being deliberately taken at the worst case time and not a random sample.
But, unless the Council has radically changed since the last election, they're not going to take any notice of the consultation anyway.
Taking the sample at busiest time is precisely when it should happen as that is when parking demand is highest. The figures published by Harringay in the consultation document were gathered at “peak time” so it will be comparing like with like
As a Wightman Road resident, I have some observations to make.
Good luck with your survey which should provide some useful information. I hope you will publish the results whatever they show.
Re point (3) - BINGO!
I'd like to help. I remember Hugh asking them how they gathered their figures, both cars parked and parking spaces. Parking spaces was presumed by dividing up the length of the road by their estimates of how big a space was required to park a car, this is not a good measure. The are fire hydrants, poor parking and disabled bays that are not used/very big. I don't dispute that outside of Sunday evenings there is a lot of spare parking space but they definitely over estimated the capacity on the ladder roads. That's the key.
I did indeed - my comment was at the bottom of the January thread on this same issue. Their calculations assume the perfect distribution of space. However, parking rarely tends to be like that. People don't park perfectly and their is often significant loss of space as a result.This led to the Council calculating 15% spare capacity on my road at stress periods whereas in reality its only 1% at max.
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