Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Haringey Green Party argues for flat fares across London
Haringey and Enfield have been overlooked by TfL's recent zone changes, which moved Stratford from Zone 3 into Zone 2/3. Travellers and commuters pay more to cross zones even if they are using less crowded services. The Green Party goal is to abolish the zones altogether.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Martina, I would also like to see the adoption of something like the Navigo fares system in Paris. People who live in London already have part of their council tax precepted to TfL but despite this pay precisely the same fares as those living outside of or visiting London who pay no TfL precept. The Paris Navigo system recognises this by giving residents cheaper weekly and annual travel passes. Couldn't we have two tier Oyster cards for instance. A London resident one and a non-resident one?
I'm hugely I'm favour the the transferable fare idea (the one hour ticket). At the moment people who live in east and south London are really disadvantaged because of the lack of tube stations so end up paying more for what is probably the same journey in kilometres because they have to change modes of transport.
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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I agree with the transferable ticket idea Michael.
If I want to go to Stamford Hill I get one bus up to Manor House and the 253 to Stamford Hill, paying twice. Alternatively I can sit on the 141 all the way to London Bridge and pay only one fair/fare (?). Drives me nuts.
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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Osbawn, Sadiq Khan is also offering up the 'unlimited bus rides for one hour' idea. At a ticket cost of £1.50 his advisors reckon it would cost £25 million in lost revenue (source: Evening Standard, 08/10/15).
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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I'm hugely I'm favour the the transferable fare idea (the one hour ticket).
Michael, yes, absolutely. At a Full Council meeting a few years ago, this proposal was put by former Cllr. Laura Edge to the ruling group. Unfortunately, it was dismissed. Eventually, I hope and expect this sensible idea to be adopted. You can always count on the Majority Group to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else …
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I'm a bit confused. I assume that Cllr Edge was on Haringey Council? They have no power to change TfL's fares policy.
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Yes Laura Edge was a Stroud Green (LibDem) Councillor. Haringey Council have no power to change TfL's fares policy, but political support was sought from the Ruling Group for such a policy. The suggestion was dismissed.
Haringey have no power to change policy over Heathrow airport expansion, but by contrast—and at about the same time—a motion opposing a third runway, was adopted by Full Council, unanimously.
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Well, that was rather stupid of them (rejecting the motion on flat fares I mean)
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It's possible that the majority group thought the policy was a good idea. However, it could not be supported because it came from an opposition motion (this has happened repeatedly).
In the case of a third runway at Heathrow (which could lead to a fourth), that motion was passed only with a majority group amendment that sought to have a dig at Boris Johnson (I looked up that motion recently).
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I heartily dislike that kind of approach. A good idea is a good idea, whichever party proposes it. For instance while I may not be a supporter of the Conservative party, their policy on equal marriage was a good one and rightly supported across party political lines.
Back on the original subject, keeping public transport fares low is common practice in many major European cities. Whatever the political complexion, they have kept it subsidised. There was some interesting research (I'll see if I can find it) that looked at the proportion of average income spent on fares in cities like Paris, Berlin and Rome. They were in the 2-10% range whereas in London it was somewhere around 20%, and of course for those on lower incomes the proportion is even higher.
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If it's the story linked to the fare rise date (Mon 4th Jan) it was reported by BBC News and the Guardian at least, but the source is 'Action for Rail' - link here.
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Thanks Gordon. It's ironic that some of the publically owned transport systems in Europe (RATP for instance) make money from running services here in London
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