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Don't know who to vote for in the Euro elections?

Try the EU profiler site.
It asks you a series of questions about your political views, then analyses your answers. It then shows you where you are on the political spectrum and which parties match your political outlook. You may be surprised at the findings...I was.

EU profiler.eu


I also like this page from the BBC with lots of links and info about the Euro Elections

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Don't worry John the Labour party promised a royal comission on animal experiements years ago and never delivered, no shock there.

The greens believe in progress in science, you don't need animals for that.
Scientists, on the whole, agree that science can't progress without animals.
Perhaps the Green Party knows something that the scientists don't. If so, why are they keeping it to themselves?
All drugs in the UK are tested on animals due to legal obligations, not scientific. Most breakthroughs come via non-animal testing, although all drugs have to be tested on animals (legally, even if there is no basis for this) and there is no coincidence that nine out of ten drugs never make the shelves. Human animals are the real guinea pigs.
I dispute the suggestion that "Most breakthroughs come via non-animal testing"
Define "breakthrough"
In what fields of medicine?
I'm sure that lots of brilliant research into, say, cough medicines can be done without animal research, but when it comes to cancer, I don't think there's a serious cancer research scientist that opposes vivisection.
If non-animal testing is so effective, why do so many scientists risk their lives to continue their research? Scientists don't do stuff unless it furthers their research; that, in essence, is what science is.
and BTW if you are pro-Euro you certainly shouldn't vote for the green party in the UK..

all the same old populist stuff from the UK greens ..

what are European Values ..?

here!
That Times article was so badly written and so biased. Hmmm, wonder who The Times are backing; oh yes of course, it's the Tories!

I'll let this comment do the talking;

Interesting article but some selective quoting:
"ban on the harmful use of animals" - yes it's in the manifesto.
"abolition of all zoos" - partial quoting: "The abolition of zoos (except for the benefit of the animals concerned)
"ban all experiments on embryos" - misquote: "ban on all cloning and genetic manipulation of embryos, whether for research, therapeutic or reproductive purposes"
"complementary therapies within NHS" - yes, but NICE have also suggested this - admittedly to the distain of professionals - see Times article


Go on all you wanna be Tory voters ... go out there tomorrow and vote Tory. I dare you to!
one of the Berlin Senats ad's 'Du bestimmst den Weg'- You decide the way to go ..

No Homophobia here... in fact, the opposite
The only pro Europe parties in London appear to be Labour (sort of) and This bloke.
This is a good precis of the people/parties standing in London.
Don't know who Martin Belam is but, for someone who claims to be a writer, he could use some remedial English :-)

It's a precis, but is it a GOOD one ?
Well it was neutral(ish) which is what I was looking for. OK, I should have said neutral rather than good.

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