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Council Seeking Views on Proposed Conscientious Objectors' Memorial Stone Outside Salisbury
The Council received a request earlier this year from a resident who has proposed siting a memorial stone outside Salisbury Pub in memory of our local conscientious objectors
Your views and suggestions are being sought by the Council.
Please contact Greville.Percival@haringey.gov.uk
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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I have a genuinely conscientious objection to yet another stone erection outside the Salisbury. I mean, some may mistake it for yet another sign of regeneration. I may feel the urge to blow it up - I mean the stone of course, at least for starters. Sorry Liz!
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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I am going to call the Met's anti-terrorism hotline and report this threat to blow things up. Or seeing as you're being so childish, should I call the nationwide "Prevent" hotline? According to a solicitor, the latter has more teeth. :)
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By "conscientious objector" is it meant someone who did not serve in the military at all or someone who did serve but, e.g,, would not carry a weapon? If it's the former (cowards) our government on down is a living memorial to them as they are similarly hiding heads in the sand with Islamic terrorism; if the latter, then I would support it if we are talking about people like Desmond Doss, who saved 75 lives and received the medal of honor. The recent film Hacksaw Ridge was about him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Doss
Otherwise, no thanks, I'd rather pay eternal respect and gratitude to the millions who gave their lives especially in World War I.
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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on
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Were you once a soldier? I assume so.
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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I sing of Olaf glad and big - true story
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The council is short of cash so they have a load of crafty managers bidding for grants and funding for anything they can get their hands on. It sound like this is money from a successful grant bid that had to be spent on a permanent art piece. It's what we have to do nowadays what with austerity and all that. I'm funded by comic relief...
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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It's not funded by Haringey
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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It's a 'relief' you're being 'comic' Ben (KEBAB) :) The country seems to be spending alot of its austerity money on elections. Another one coming along soon. That will be 5 elections in this ward in approx 20 months!
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Honestly comic relief fund my post. People don't get it, there are loads of public sector jobs funded by charities. That's austerity for you. Many Managers are essentially bid writers.
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Permalink Reply by Joanna Bornat on
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Just to clarify, Haringey First World War Peace Forum, see our website, https://hfwwpf.wordpress.com, has carried out a number of activities commemorating the 350 First World War conscientious objectors who lived in what is now the London Borough of Haringey (see related posts on this site). We are hoping to install a simple plaque outside the Salisbury and have the support of Harringay Traders as well as local councillors and other local organisations in our bid for funding. This area of north London stood out for the large number of COs with religious or political convictions and their stories are an intrinsic part of the history of the First World War. The Salisbury 'corner' was the location of an anti war meeting in August 1914, hence the choice of location.
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I think it's an excellent idea. Good luck.
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Thanks to the Haringey First World War Peace Forum for pursuing this. I would be very much in favour of a memorial to conscientious objectors. When we are increasingly seeing the urge to bomb those we disagree with and solve complex international problems through armed intervention, the commemoration of people who were prepared to stand up against this approach is a great idea. It may even help people now to question the willingness of governments to send young people to their deaths on the basis of flimsy evidence at best and to increase profits at worst.
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