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Just because things have always been such a way it doesn't mean that we should accept it and live with the status quo. There are a lot of people who have put a large amount of time, effort and money in trying to make the Ladder and Wightman Road a better place for everyone with this campaign.

We are not asking for the road to be closed! We are asking that it can no longer be used to travel end to end.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a reduction in the huge amount of traffic that Wightman carries, there is nothing wrong with wanting to make Wightman undesirable to the hundreds of HGVs that thunder past our house each week. There is nothing wrong with not having to wipe black dust from our windows each week. There is nothing wrong with wanting our windows open in the summer. There is nothing wrong with wanting a safe road to cycle on – Wightman Road is currently the most dangerous road I know esp with those wretched traffic islands. There is nothing wrong with wanting to leave a legacy to our children and grandchildren (who will look back at this with the benefit of hindsight and wonder why nothing was done when there was such a great opportunity).  Of course, I must just be a NIMBY!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that the proposal involves recreating the state of the road during the closure last year. This not only prevented end-to-end transit but also entry / exit via Wightman and a rung.

Hyperbole. I cycle along Wightman nearly every day on the way to Camden and disagree about it being one of the most dangerous roads. And what about the residents of Green Lanes who want to leave a legacy for their children and grandchildren. Do they matter less because they can't afford to live on the Ladder or Wightman Road?

I think Green Lanes is safer for cycling, a friend thinks Wightman is safer for cycling.

I could likely cycle anywhere between Harringay, Shoreditch and Hyde Park with my eyes closed.

For all of the experience it has taken to get to that point, there is no road to me on a bicycle more daunting than Wightman. The squeeze from the straddled parking, the islands, and the size of the road in the first place is unique in the parts of London I know.  Green Lanes sucks but it's more the traffic blocking me from moving than the sense of danger I always feel on WR.

I cycle into Soho, and find Wightman to be one of the worst parts (particularly in the evening, but I think that's just due to the time I leave and return).

I think there is a few reasons for this.  The fact cars try to push past between islands, the lack of cycle marking on the bridge north bound.  There are certainly other bits that feel dangerous (under the bridge on Seven Sisters road, but I avoid that on the way home).  I guess it's all subjective really, but I've managed to plan most of my routes to avoid the worst roads.

I'm probably going to be cycling roughly in the Camden direction soon, which bits would you recommend to avoid if possible?

Cycling seems safe to me. based on 2015 figures. https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2016/june/road-cas...

I'm the more at risk group using a motorcycle, and We don't get vast amounts of money spent to keep us safe.

Maybe it was lovely for residents of Wightman and those living the top end of Ladder Roads. It was horrible for those of us living closer to Green Lanes (I simply don't believe that it was less polluted as the air in out street was thick with fumes day and night from traffic jams on the main road.) 

If you don't make any parking available, they won't be able to own cars in the first place.

True, but low car ownership in the Harringay Ward hasn't prevented it from becoming traffic clogged. The homes will have visitors, deliveries and so on. New roads fill up with cars that mysteriously seem to emerge from no where.

I wasn't aware that car ownership in the Harringay ward was considered particularly low.  It strikes me as about average.  What is your point of comparison?

It's much lower than the national average and a little lower than the London average as of the last census (110% nationally, 57% London, 46% Harringay)

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