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Anyone Able to Offer Vaccine Advice?

I have an 82 year old aunt who is very nervous about taking a vaccine shot and has not had one so far. She has sadly not received sufficient reassurance from her GP. Basically she had two vaccines in the 50s that she reacted *very* badly to. As a result she has never had another vaccine in her life.

She is extremely fearful of taking a covid vaccine, and her GP has not been able to offer any reassurance.

I am trying to persuade her to have a vaccine, but I need some help to reassure her it is safe. So, I am looking for someone who can help advice either (1) how the current vaccines are different to those she may have had a long time ago and why they are safe, or (2) how we can work out if she might suffer any negative effects from the current vaccines- I know there are ways of testing for allergies that are not high risk.

Any help as to who I can talk to get some information to persuade my aunt to have a vaccine, and possibly which one, would be very welcome.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on May 15, 2021 at 9:11

Of course there are 900 recorded deaths. The first four cohorts to be given the vaccine included people aged over 70, living in care homes and those clinically extremely vulnerable. Chose any event (watching an episode of Eastenders for instance) and a large number of people in that cohort will have died within 28 days.

I was in the initial cohort and received my first jab on 30 January because I was being treated for cancer. The chance of me dying within 28 days of the 30 of January was much higher than the general population whether I had taken the vaccine or not.

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Permalink Reply by JennyC on May 15, 2021 at 9:55

If anyone wanted to see what animal studies were done the information for AZ is summarised here. In case anyone is concerned and doesn’t want to read hundreds of pages - there were toxicity studies in mice, other animal studies for efficacy and no mention of any ferrets dying. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-c...

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Permalink Reply by tigha on May 15, 2021 at 11:09

It’s a really tricky one Justin, as some people have just got a total distrust for vaccines. I sometimes tell my patients, that I usually try to avoid vaccines, but the COVID vax are a no brainer, and I couldn’t wait to get both my doses. Not only will it stop her dying from COVID, but it will also keep her out of hospital. You don’t say what the bad reactions were to the previous vaccines she had. But at worst, she feels a bit unwell for a few days, it’s still a drop in the ocean compared to COVID.

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Permalink Reply by kotkas on May 16, 2021 at 13:54

You can’t be serious - do you actually work in a medical setting and tell people you avoid vaccines???? How do you expect vaccine hesitant people to react to such an utterly stupid premise? I would use much stronger words were it not for my respect for Hugh and this forum.

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Permalink Reply by Will on May 15, 2021 at 15:52

This kind of misinformation is regularly and rightfully deleted from social media sites.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on May 15, 2021 at 16:17

Hear hear

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Permalink Reply by Hollie on May 16, 2021 at 12:59

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Not misinformation, just Alternative information

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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on May 16, 2021 at 13:29

I’ve looked at theyellow card reports and cannot see anything like the figures you reproduce in your photograph. Below is the section commenting on fatalities

“The MHRA has received 370 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 756 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 2 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 15 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.”

The publication you took this photograph from, “The Light”, is run by a conspiracy theorist, Darren Nesbitt. The current edition has an article seems to suggest sugar is being used a chemical weapon.