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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

A letter just dropped through y door asking for feedback. Here is mine:

"I hope the council considers the permanent closure of Wightman Road. Gradually commuters and long-distance drivers are realising they need to either use alternative main roads, or switch to public transport or cycling. The study shows that residents overwhelmingly do not own a car (61%), and prefer public transport, walking or cycling for their commute (82%)."

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But again--and why I resurrected this discussion--I find it curious that in a borough with big liberals running the show, libs who talk about global warming BS all of the time--that they actually do nothing about the purported warming CO2, noise, etc., when it comes down to it. That's all. 

You sure you're in Haringey? It's been Labour for the last 50 years.

There really isn't a lot of difference between Labour and Greens. All liberals but perhaps some actually believe in their policies (Bernie Sanders/Greens) and some just wear the badge because it gets them elected (Clinton/Labour).

The two-way system led to a lot of stand-offs and altercations as some people never wanted to give way and the roads were never wide enough for two-way traffic.

It a weird one that. I've heard it time and time again. Yet the Ladder roads are no narrower than most other residential roads in London. Yet people muddle through on all those roads; they get by. The Gardens roads are no wider, yet they do just fine.

Although I know others will disagree, I lived on the Ladder for almost ten years whilst they were two-way and never had a problem. The issue came with the closures to the east. This brought a huge increase in traffic that neither Wightman or the rung roads were able to accommodate. Such was the political will at the time to make the new closures work that solutions had to be found. On Wightman they introduced pavement parking. The solution for the rung roads was the current one-way working. 

It's not needed here to cope with residential traffic any more than it is in the many many streets of the same size throughout London. Look at the streets in London that are made one way systems. Almost universally, it's because the local authority had deiced to sacrifice them as rat runs and one way traffic is needed to make them work.

Thanks for that suggestion, FPR. I'm sure that reading it is was an epiphanous moment for people adversely affected by the road changes introduced by the Council.

No they don't do fine. With cars parked on both sides, there is just not enough room to pass. Just this year I have been invollved in three altercations because the oncoming car refused to give way or reverse into a gap. I have been threatened and swore at, even though I had my children in the car. On each occasion I have had to give way when it would have been easier for the other person to give way. This has involved reversing back into the traffic on Green Lanes, and reversing halfway Dow the street until I could pull into a gap. Because our street is popular as a parking spot for shoppers and restaurant goers, it is also a hot spot for situations and I often see it happening at the weekend or on my way home from work. When my brother lived in Lausanne Road in the mid-90s, I would drive down from the Midlands to visit and never liked driving on the Ladder roads.

So, would you like to see the Gardens roads made one-way?

I'm sure there must be a way of keeping all Gardens Roads open, enabling residents and services access. But with one-way sections creating a maze effect to discourage usage as a cut through.

Yes they did that around Dongala Road.

Making the Gardens alternate one way would make sense although Warwick Gardens would have to remain two way as I understand the Rising Bollard sometimes breaks, so drivers need to be able to turn back and exit via Green Lanes somehow.

As I have said on a previous thread, yes

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