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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Is it just me or are the dodgy groups hanging around the station getting worse?

I received some police marketing a while ago stating the issue was being "tackeled", and yet there are groups of guys out there blatantly dealing/taking drugs in broad daylight, with seemingly no fear that they may be arrested.

What can we do to make sure that the decent people of Turnpike Lane are not ignored?

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Wow. Racially abusing little kids? What a prince. I'm not sure I'd be responsible for my actions if someone picked on my child. Although there are people on here that will say that we should make allowances for pepole having "painful" lives but I don't accept that. Why should your kids have to experience that? Or that young girl being sexually harassed? The good part about the story is that other people came to your aid and backed you up.

Followers of this post may be interested in this statement just released by the local police. 

Reassuring, for sure. How can we find out when the community meeting will be?

Has anybody heard more about the community meeting? There is nothing on the internet as far as I can see other than the HoL page. I am concerned that Operation Hayle in its current form may be back-firing. Last night for example the same 20 or so drug dealers who have been hanging around TL station were still there, however rather than congregating in the pedestrian areas outside the station they were spread out along Langham Road with the majority out of the scope of the newly installed cameras. If the effect of Operation Hayle is to move the dealers into less well lit residential areas then that is arguably a more serious problem. It would be good to get more details form the police about how they will deal with these consequences and what we can do to help.

Yes, I agree about the drug dealers just spreading into the residential streets. That is definitely happening. I would like to attend the meeting as well.

Doctors in Canada can prescribe heroin to severely addicted patients who have repeatedly failed to conquer their addiction.

That is not " legalising " it.

It's actually crack they are selling as well as occasionally meth. I know you like to see it as a couple of kids making a it of money on the side but in the last few months at least you can see it had escalated.

The fact I know what drugs they're selling from them openly having numerous bags in the car counting them out to their local dealers shows how significant the criminal activity is around there.
That explains why I saw two gentlemen head at pace to the newsagent on langham road and ask for the little bags, I presume they must have been doing brisk business last week. Maybe the police can pop in to the newsagents and confirm if they've been selling out of little plastic Jiffy bags. And enquire who their best customers are?

Because they are breaking the law ?

What other laws do you choose to ignore because they don't suit you ?

If you want to legalise the sale of drugs, the way to do it is to ask your MP to act.

I agree with Finsbury Park Ranger that if these drugs were legalised the problem would go away, because they would be regulated and sold from shops. But they are not legal and they are not sold from shops, they are sold by a large group of men who do not pay taxes or benefit the community, instead they intimidate and harass people who walk pass them, who take over a large public spaces so that other people cannot use them (god bless the council for thinking that pedestrianising the bottom of Langham Road might magically lead to the creation of a continental style cafe culture), who legitimise a culture where drug users feel free to openly buy and use in the street in front of children and leave the detritus of their use wherever it suits, who undermine confidence in the police by seemingly operating with impunity and in doing so encourage other crimes and creating a status quo where the community just copes with antisocial behaviour rather than challenge it, who undoubtedly are themselves responsible for lots of ancillary crime - I sincerely doubt the weapons the police find on their routine weapons sweep of the ladder are left there by the local churchgoers (and wouldn't it be nice to live in an area where we the police did not have to sweep for weapons?). So why don't we try a two-pronged approach to this problem? FPR why don't you target the problem on a national level - perhaps with all the legislation changes the govt. is having to look at as a result of Brexit you might be able to get them to look at the issue as a priority. In the meantime everyone else can try and deal with the problem on a local level (which arguably is a better use of a local community forum) and make our community a more pleasant and safer place that way? 

Automated vehicles are already out there selling crack!!!? I bet there's an app you can use to summon it too.

Ubers driving around with dope vending machines in the boot. How cool.

'an ounce of common sense' - I wonder how much that would fetch on the streets!

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