Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 ... so Wightman Rd ...
... can surely be closed to through traffic in the future, as it currently is during the bridge works. If the planners can deal with the re-routing of all those buses and taxi journeys away from Oxford Street for the pedestrianisation plans, it must be possible to do this for Wightman Road as well.
Living Wightman would do well to have a chat with the new Mayor's office.
Tags for Forum Posts: traffic, wightman bridge closure
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Permalink Reply by JulieB on
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I feel for you Antoinette, this term has been horrible for us, only 2 days left to go - phew.
Although I finally found a silver lining, we were so slow coming home this afternoon that my son caught 5 Pokemon for me ;o)
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Those who moved to Wightman? When? Recently? Fair enough... but the traffic has been getting worse for decades as other places around Wightman that might have been able to cope with the same traffic were closed off. Some people have lived on Wightman Rd for 50 years - just saying.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Seen these John? In Ahmedabad.
https://m.facebook.com/logical.indian/photos/a.430765593719832.1073...
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Permalink Reply by JoeW on
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"...Wightman road (a B road)..."
Natasha, Wightman's classification as a B road implies precisely nothing about the volume of traffic it is fit to carry.
Before it was closed, Wightman carried more traffic than Turnpike Lane (an A road), West Green Road (another A road) and the western end of St Anns Road (a B road although a considerably wider road than Wightman).
The solution - which seems to be universally accepted and certainly very widely adopted almost everywhere else except the Harringay Ladder - is to close all residential roads to through traffic, forcing vehicles onto A roads wherever possible. You then know the exact volume of traffic you have to manage (via better public transport, safer cycle routes, congestion charges, car sharing schemes, etc.) in order to reduce overall congestion and pollution levels.
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Permalink Reply by Nick on
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Close all residential roads? Most roads in London are 'residential'. The city wasn't built with cars in mind. St Anns Road is residential. Endymion road is residential. The series of roads leading from Oakfield road through to Crouch end is entirely residential, and they are not closed. The roads from Crouch End to Highgate - Hornsey Lane, Shepherds Hill - residential.
Are you proposing that all these roads are closed? Take a look at a map of the local area and see if you can get anywhere by using only A roads.
The number of people affected by traffic on Green Lanes must be an order of magnitude higher than that of Wightman Road. Despite some protestations to the contrary, the occurrence of stationary traffic on Green Lanes, Turnpike Lane, Station Road (in Wood Green) and Seven Sisters road (toward Harringay) is far higher than before the closure of Wightman Road.
While Wightman Road does have high traffic numbers, how often have you seen cars queueing there, except at the very ends?
I don't think it's fair to expand the number of lanes on Green Lanes to compensate for the closure of Wightman Road. A red route will spoil the area and make it hostile to pedestrians. If the aim is to reduce car use, why increase the capacity of the road?
I find the request to keep Wightman road closed beyond the completion of the bridge repair, without any sort of consultation, very selfish. Closing Wightman (a B road) to eliminate ladder through traffic would be the same as closing St Anns road (also a B road) to do the same on the Gardens - a proposal which would never have been taken seriously.
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"Are you proposing that all these roads are closed?"
If they are suffering from excessive ratrunning, then yes that is exactly what should be done. Oakfield is an interesting example - it is a relatively quiet road thanks to various cul-de-sacs and one way systems on the roads further north leading off Tottenham Lane. It is still possible to ratrun through Lancaster Road, if the level is excessive then it should be blocked or made one-way such that it no longer serves the ratrunners' objectives.
"Take a look at a map of the local area and see if you can get anywhere by using only A roads."
Where are you unable to get to? Haringey has 6 main "town centres" (Wood Green is classified as a "Metropolitan Centre". Tottenham High Road, Crouch End, Green Lanes, Muswell Hill and West Green Road are "District Centres"), they are all on A-roads. If you have business in the surrounding area you'll obviously come off the A-road at that point but getting there by A-road shouldn't be a problem.
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Let's say I live on Weston Park in Crouch End and I want to visit my friend in Highgate.
Above is Joe's ideal route, avoiding all residential roads. Good luck with that.
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Permalink Reply by Charlotte A on
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But all those roads have people living on them.
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You could walk.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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Assuming you aren't transporting a load of stuff you could walk up Crouch End Hill then along Parkland Walk or cycle it. Much simpler and more enjoyable. Happy monster avatar!
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Assuming you are able to walk, and if so able to walk 2 miles. And have 40 minutes to spare. The Parkland Walk also isn't pushchair or wheelchair accessible. Constantly suggesting that people walk or cycle just shows that you assume that everyone else is just like you.
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No, it's just pointing out options Charlotte. Owning a car in London is expensive. Makes more sense if one needs to journey via car to utilize a zipcar, uber or a minicab. More options for you Charlotte but, you probably don't accept those either. Think we all know by now that you want Wightman back as a racetrack.
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