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Haringey Labour Leader comments on the appeal of Zac Goldsmith

The Standard (article) — Tory MP Zac Goldsmith announces bid to run for London Mayor.

One subject that would appear to unite all the Council with an important plank of Mr Goldsmith, is opposition to a third runway at Heathrow airport (I seem to recall that Haringey passed a unanimous motion at Full Council about that).

Would Zac back Boris Island?!

CDC
Haringey Councillor
Liberal Democrat Party

Tags for Forum Posts: Gatwick, Green, Heathrow, LibDem, Mayor, Zac Goldsmith, appeal, candidate, expansion, runway

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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on June 11, 2015 at 20:31

Ben, my personal view is that, if we really need additional airport capacity in the South East, then Boris Island may be the least bad option.

It's modelled on the new Hong Kong airport, built on reclaimed land forming an offshore island. Anybody who has been through it can see the advantage of starting, not from a blank canvas: from no canvas: an airport built on land that did not exist, never had anyone claiming it or arguing about it. You can build big, modern and without compromise.

Instead of which, we now see Heathrow and Gatwick each spending loads of money on expensive advertising campaigns, each claiming they are the better option.

One thing that doesn't help Boris Island is that, because it'd be quite a long term project, it's beyond the horizon of many politicians.

But maybe not Zac?

Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on June 11, 2015 at 20:49
I think the sea should be left for the wildlife who inhabit it. This article, although a few years old is quite interesting http://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2012/jan/18/boris-islan..., particularly when it comes to Zac who calls himself an environmentalists. I guess only when it comes to Richmond.
Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on June 17, 2015 at 8:32

Here're Labour candidates for Mayor on Heathrow runway expansion, with David Lammy pointing out the Zac Goldsmith effect.

Was building Terminal Five a mistake?

In October 2008, a resolution opposed to airport expansion at Heathrow was proposed by Cllr. Ed Butcher and seconded by Cllr. Martin Newton.

Following amendment, it ( #46 ) was passed unanimously by Full Council (Minutes, here CNCL46).

Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on June 30, 2015 at 22:34

Ben, sounds like tomorrow, the Airports Commission will recommend Heathrow airport for a third runaway, although Gatwick was a close contender. This should be interesting; Boris has already threatened to fight such a proposal to the last ditch.

Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on June 30, 2015 at 23:06
Thanks Clive. On a entirely different note, did you get my emails and phone messages today?
Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on June 30, 2015 at 23:13

No; if you use my email address that is:

clive.carter@haringeylibdems.org

I will get your message immediately

Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on July 1, 2015 at 7:16

Thanks Ben, received and understood.

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IMO, for Heathrow to be even further expanded, will compound mistakes made over a long period, with incremental expansion, including the rather large increment of Terminal Five. If this 'trajectory' is continued, there could be pressure in the future for a fourth runway as well.

CDC
Councillor

Permalink Reply by Narendra Makanji on July 1, 2015 at 6:46

The best place for the third runway is in the long grass! (IMHO).

Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on July 1, 2015 at 9:28

Narendra, I agree with the points made in this interview with the Mayor of London.

Permalink Reply by Neil on July 2, 2015 at 0:19

By sending the new third runway into the long grass you will be sabotaging thousands of new jobs and billions of pounds worth of economic growth. 

Permalink Reply by John D on July 2, 2015 at 2:24

Why not create the thousands of new jobs and the economic growth somewhere where they are needed and not in the relatively-affluent West London ?

Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on July 2, 2015 at 6:20
That's a very good point. Also, I think the decision has ignored the pressure on the Picadilly Line. I can't see how trains will run more frequently (and they certainly can't be made longer) to cope with increase passenger numbers. If expanded capacity really does have to be created then Gatwick was probably the least worst expansion option and the Thames Estuary was worth proper consideration. If HS2 is actually to go ahead, an airport along that route would have spread the load over a wider area and brought some economic benefits to areas other than London.

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