Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Political leaflet questioned
I NOTE that that one of my fellow Stroud Green residents (the MP for Tottenham) has on Twitter, questioned one of his party's leaflets (not from the local party).
https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/559686468529295360/photo/1
As David Lammy suggests, it appears to reflect concern that UKIP will pinch votes. I reckon Mr Lammy was informed about his party's piece, rather than had it delivered in his street. Did anyone receive the leaflet in question and if so, in what area?
It appears that it only went to selected areas. Around the same time, I received a leaflet from the same party with similar layout, but a different story occupied the immigration slot.
Apparently the particular clauses on immigration may not have been thought suitable for the south of the Borough (nor the west?)
Clive Carter
Councillor
Liberal Democrat Party
Tags for Forum Posts: David Lammy, Immigration, leaflet
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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I would guess that this is a fake, not a Labour Party leaflet. Perhaps some other party trying to discredit Labour ? ( not that they need it
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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No, not a fake, it's real enough. Labour Party in Haringey are aware of its existence and that it's been delivered in Bounds Green. There are some very cross activists right now. Clive can now sit back and await the replies to this which may be as forceful as some of the Twitter exchanges last night.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Well they should vote with their feet and not #labourdoorstep there. Thanks Alan Olive.
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Apparently also delivered in White Hart Lane ward where incidentally the UKIP candidate came fourth. Trying to lure (back) some voters? As Tottenham isn't a marginal, numbers voting UKIP there are probably not going to change anything.
Bounds Green has a UKIP vote as well and Hornsey and Wood Green is very much sought after as a #LabourGain. Every vote might count there.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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Well Liz, as an immigrant myself, I do hope that the Party's HQ are not targeting Bounds Green as some kind of 'redneck' Ward.
If they are, IMO such targeting may be misplaced.
If it wishes to portray itself as UKIP-lite Party, then they might do better distributing their message in Heywood & Middleton. In that October by-election, UKIP nearly wrested the seat and that must have come as a surprise (their message may be going out there already; in any event, I doubt my advice will be heeded).
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I really don't think that immigrants like you and me who found it so easy to integrate into English culture should be crowing about our immigrant credentials. We're definitely not who people are talking about.
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John who is "Labour's tough new approach" aimed at then?
I'd be keen for you to explain it.
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Well Nigel Farage (someone pointed out to me recently that the English pronunciation of that name should sound more like how we say garage, ha ha ha) is essentially a racist. He's not talking about immigrants, he's talking about brown and black people and people with different religions.
Repeat after me - Nigel Farage is not concerned about immigration, he is concerned about more muslims, brown people and eastern Europeans coming here, ergo - he is a racist.
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I agree John.
I don't think that it's a question of being a 'redneck' in Bounds Green - if media and powerful political figures bang on about it enough people start to believe that immigration is a problem for them, not the individuals just the numbers supposedly coming here; add that to a couple of well placed stories in the Mail or Express about some large family or other getting large houses in posh bits of London paid for by housing benefit, and the disingenuous babblings of Farage et al about not hearing English spoken on trains plus a sense that the main parties don't care about the "English" and suddenly UKIP as a protest vote becomes 206 votes in Bounds Green, 214 in Crouch End, 259 in Woodside, 210 in Hornsey.
Labour are going to try and win marginals by getting the core vote out and luring back the disaffected. It worked in the local elections.
What they should be doing is telling people considering UKIP what UKIP thinks about the NHS- they'll run screaming to the polling booths.
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It's dogwhistle politics I'm afraid. The NHS argument is too hard on the doorstep, the finances are too hard (even though there is actually a world of difference between the Tories' plans and Labour's) on the doorstep and they don't even have the balls to come out and say they'll nationalise the railways.
Rather sad that we'll get the lesser of two evils at this rate.
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Yes but the NHS does figure large in people's considerations. Don't get into details. Tell people with UKIP leanings that UKIP want you to pay for health and that should be enough.
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Arrggghh no! People have been convinced that you should pay for fixing up and seeing the doctor, they've been convinced that you should pay for a home and they've been convinced that every man woman and tax dodging business has a right to use the road however they see fit. That is a dead end argument. Sadly if they get in they'll have to fix it up quietly and not take the credit (like Surestart).
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