Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Alexandra Palace would like to invite you to visit an exhibition on the Heritage Lottery Fund project at Alexandra Palace
Hello,
Alexandra Palace would like to invite you to visit an exhibition on the Heritage Lottery Fund project at Alexandra Palace which will be held in the Ice Rink entrance.
This exhibition will run until 7 October 2014 and will enable you to see the most up-to-date designs of the Palace’s multimillion pound regeneration of its eastern end, talk to one of the regeneration team and provide feedback on the designs.
To find out more about the exhibition and opening times please visit: http://www.alexandrapalace.com/whats-on/heritage-lottery-fund-proje...
Kindest Regards,
Claire
Claire Pendleton MCIPR
Communications Manager
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Permalink Reply by Harringay on
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Why such a short time frame and such short notice? I would have liked to have seen the plans.
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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"The plans will also be on display at Wood Green Shopping Mall from 12.00 – 17.00 on Sunday 12 October", says the event listing, though whether there will be people there to interact with, it doesn't state.
The display opened on Sept. 27th.
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Will def get to this today, but wonder why details are not available on line? Not sure 'have your say' equates to 'we will change it if you don't like it'.......
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Try this: http://www.alexandrapalace.com/about-us/regeneration/
and this, from the architects Feilden Clegg Bradley Studios:
http://fcbstudios.com/work/view/alexandra-palace?sort=az&direct...
I think the display today is only staffed - to have your say - from 1600 to 2000.
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Had a look, but found it more than a little vague; mostly opinion polls.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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ACCORDING to the opening times published near the ice rink last Saturday, the last opportunity to see the display boards is this coming Sunday (the 12th), between midday and 5 o'clock at the Wood Green shopping mall.
I would encourage anyone with an interest in any part of the east wing of AP to go and take a look. Although the text is hard to read (being scrunched up with characters touching), the historical photos are well worth seeing.
Just two years ago, the goal of UN World Heritage was formally adopted by our Trust's Board, but I didn't spot any reference. If anyone sees it mentioned on the display boards, do tell.
In respect of the studios, I've pasted an aide memoire above (click to enlarge)
The successful bid to the Heritage Lottery Fund covers much of the east wing, including the Victorian Theatre (where the lion's share of money would go) the big Ice Rink foyer and last – and in some ways, least – the 1936 BBC studios.
Whether the current proposals meet the challenge of the rich history is for you to decide. The questionnaires provided seek more information about you, than they give space for your opinions on the designs. However, I would encourage any residents of North London (not just this Borough) to tell the authorities what you think.
Please do remember that this is our Charitable Trust. It is not owned by Haringey Council, who are Trustees.
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Permalink Reply by Robert Pike on
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What is underneath that immediate area?
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Permalink Reply by Straw Cat on
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The Save Ally Pally campaign has posted members about this:
The approach taken by the council's "Regeneration Working Group" has been to treat the SE wing as a derelict, brown-field site that might as well be anywhere. The desire has been to make it look smart inside and symmetrical from the outside. What is proposed amounts to a wholesale modernisation of an historic site. The big steps/introduction area planned for the entrance is bold. But how imaginative is the rest? Does the modern, generic style recognise or respond adequately to the history of the site?
For example, Logie Baird's small Spotlight Studio would be destroyed, but this is not obvious from the plans. The big section marked "gallery" has a meaning that is misleading. The producer’s galleries were in Studio A and B – Studio A’s is still there -, and were the first in the world – all subsequent TV studios’ control rooms borrowing the Ally Pally name.
Indeed, the plans lack the usual detail of existing and proposed – showing for comparison purposes, what is there currently and therefore what would be lost. This is important – once historic interiors are destroyed, they are gone forever. The golden conservation principle is “conserve as found” – and that principle is largely being followed religiously in the plans for the Victorian Theatre, and yet not in the arguable more precious BBC studios.
Yes, what's proposed are beautiful modern examples of interior exhibition design, full of multi-media exhibits ... that could easily be elsewhere in London, or in the media museum in Bradford, or anywhere in the world. But in Ally Pally, uniquely, the structure is the exhibit.
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I intend to visit again on Sunday (at the Wood Green venue) to check to see if a reference to our Trust Board's adopted goal, to seek UNESCO World Heritage for the South East wing, is anywhere to be seen on the public display boards.
In any event, would what is proposed above, qualify?
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Only Sunday or Saturday too?
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Robert I believe it's only Sunday.
I took that from the display board at the ice rink last Saturday. On the Ally Pally website, this quasi-consultation was treated as a music event as far as dates and times were concerned and most of the information has disappeared. I did try to get confirmation yesterday.
It's interesting to recall that the quality of the last public consultation about a big change at Ally Pally – the council's attempted sale in 2006/7 – ended up in the High Court, with a firm judgement against the Charity Commission and costs awarded against the Trustees.
The judge recognized that the Trustees had leaned heavily on the Commission to provide an inadequate, unsatisfactory consultation ... in contradiction to the promise made by a Government Minister, in Parliament, in a debate on the subject.
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Okay. Thanks. Will try an catch it tomorrow then.
Your description makes me think of the Hitchhikers Guide:
"But Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months."
"Oh yes, well as soon as I heard I went straight round to see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn't exactly gone out of your way to call attention to them, had you? I mean, like actually telling anybody or anything."
"But the plans were on display ..."
"On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them."
"That's the display department."
"With a flashlight."
"Ah, well the lights had probably gone."
"So had the stairs."
"But look, you found the notice didn't you?"
"Yes," said Arthur, "yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'."
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