Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Filthy new Green Lanes pavement
I have noticed that since the pavement was redone on Green Lanes a few months ago, the new clear-coloured paving does not seem to have been washed.
Sure, litter gets picked up by the council services, but the clear paving would require proper cleaning with specialist equipment at least once a week, especially around bins and benches (see picture), as the road is starting to look disgusting.
It is my understanding that it was the Greater London Authority that paid for the new pavement, and that Harringay Council would be in charge of its upkeep: why then is the council not doing its job?
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Permalink Reply by Lauren on
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The council need to do something about Devran constantly sweeping their crap out of the side kitchen door onto Pemberton Rd, the sea of fag butts, fag packets and chewing gum left their by their staff, the upturned buckets and oil drum seating which is a permanent fixture on our footpath. While they are at it they need to outlaw their constantly swung-open into the footpath kitchen door and the outwards-opening onto the footpath windows at eye level. The constant gang of staff sat on the footpath or leaning against cars is not on either both in terms of hygiene as food handlers and of their clothing and of the nuisance it creates for residents and anyone who uses the footpath. If they want to operate this restaurant they need to be responsible to both their customers and local people or they should be shut down.
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Permalink Reply by Robert Pike on
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Seems particularly bad outside a certain Chemist of a certain St Anns Councillor. Sign of lack of care to the electorate?
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Permalink Reply by rosyrose on
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I weighed in on this issue over the summer, brought to the brink of distraction by the litter and filthy pavements on Green Lanes in the stretch between the bridge and Stanhope Gardens. I'm happy to acknowledge that the litter problem seems to have been addressed to some degree and there are fewer days when the crap is liberally distributed. But the pavements are still disgusting. And yes, a Council employee I spoke to who seemed to be surveying the area, in the company of a suit on a mobile, also told me that there will be no cleaning until ALL the works on Green Lanes are completed, and thereafter only on an "as and when" basis, i.e. no regular programme, for "budget reasons". I raised the issue with Ali Ozbek, who put in a member's enquiry and was promised a reply from the council by 28th July. Despite chasing, I've heard nothing from Counciller Ozbek since then.
From the upper deck of the 141 earlier this week, I watched a relay of rats shuttling between the trees on the edge of Finsbury Park and a row of council purple bin bags leaning up against the fence. Our pavements are rich pickings for vermin under the current cleaning regime.
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Permalink Reply by Ruth on
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It seems we are moving back into Victorian times, dirt and filth piling up and rats running around. People just sweeping the rubbish into the streets. I despair, many of us despair.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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I despair, many of us despair.
Ruth, I symathise. I think I'm not alone in the Borough in having come to it, having been brought up elsewhere and used to different standards (in the public realm) of tidiness and cleanliness. I find it hard to understand why the current standards are just accepted and people are expected to become inured to it.
The lack of commitment to anti-littering is wider than a Haringey Borough problem.
It does not have to be like this. It's not rocket science. Greater attention, commitment and enforcement are the answers. Unfortunately, its not exciting, glamourous or a profitable activity. It seems to me the Council is more interested in things that exhibit those characteristics, than in getting the basics right first.
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I will try to share your optimism FPR. I do agree about the broken window theory but let's see how it pans out down here. I think the high number of restaurants and take aways that are edging round corners now makes matters worse. walking down my street from Green Lanes last was horrible as usual, wading through piles of litter left behind by those take away louts.
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Yes, such a huge disparity between the glossy image of global London and the filthy pavements of our borough, and others.
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I UNDERSTAND that a "deep clean" is part of the refurbishment of Green Lanes, but that it will happen at works' completion – that could be many weeks away.
I don't know exactly is meant by a deep clean, but I reckon it's gotta be pretty deep to remove some of the material – liquid-looking – that appears to have been absorbed into the new concrete paving. New paving, that's fast looking old.
I also undertand that, on the grounds of cost, the authorities declined to treat the pavement with a formula that would resist staining.
Unless the new pavement is not to look even worse than it does in parts today, it seems that either regular "deep" cleaning will be needed, or special treatment followed by less frequent cleaning.
Those who put out bags with liquids likely to leak (cooking oil?) ought to be dealt with.
Local Councillors may have better and more up-to-date information.
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The pavements will be needing a 'deep clean' every other day given the the regularity of careless spillages etc and porous quality of the slabs. They need to be made more resistant for sure but certainly there should be regular checks on restaurants to see that they are not polluting and making filthy their areas etc. But who will do that? Where is the will?
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Permalink Reply by Andy H on
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I think everybody should take off their shoes and put on their slippers every time they walk down Green Lanes.
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