A number of HOL contributors have suggested that there is a need for a Harringay Ladder Residents Association (RA) - in particular so that those residents can be represented on, or have access to, various Haringey Council Groups, such as the Finsbury Park Stakeholders Group; and can also present a united front to the Council on matters such as parking, rubbish collection, developments, etc as well as promoting appropriate cultural events.
Membership would presumably be open to residents aged over 16 within the following boundaries:
Green Lanes West, from Endymion Rd to Turnpike Lane
Turnpike Lane South, from Green Lanes to Wightman Rd
Both sides of Wightman Rd and Alroy Rd
Endymion Rd
As a first step, it will be necessary to assemble a group of interested people to form an interim committee to discuss what form the RA should take and to agree a constitution, after which the RA can be formally established ( to be effective, an RA has to conform to various legal requirements ) . It would be necessary at an early stage to consider whether the proposed Ladder RA would conflict with any other RAs in the catchment area.
I would like to hear from anyone who is prepared to take part in this initial work ( and it will involve work ) by email to macbeast76@hotmail.com,. Please give full name and your preferred email address and outline any special areas of expertise that could be useful to the RA.
If you have read this far, thank you for your interest
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Well, yes. But isn't that what Harringayonline does already?
It's often said that HOL isn't representative of residents who are not active on the internet or for whom English is not their first language.
^^ wot he said
Will be in touch with those who have expressed an interest to set up a face-to-face.
It is suggested that HoL isn't representative, but often from people with a vested interest in some other group. Personally, i think these days far more people are likely to have access to the internet than are likely to be able to make it along to a 7pm meeting in some hall so the a group with an online aspect is likely to be _more_ inclusive, especially if there is also the odd face-to-face meeting as well. The other past criticisms of HoL discussion is that it has no weight as its not be from any formally constituted group, but that would be easy to fix for your new RA group. Anyway, just a suggestion, no worries if you're not interested.
HoL was put at the disposal of the LCSP almost as soon as it was launched in 2007. The offer remains open.
For the record, Google Analytics shows that HoL gets about 300,000 views from 30,00 different people every month.
-Hugh,
HoL has been marvelous as regards the LCSP, the archives contain a wealth of information regarding it’s activities, and thanks to you, it’s meetings are publicised.
I didn’t realise the extensive reach of HoL, your figures are very impressive, however there aren’t to my knowledge 30,000 different people resident on Harringay Ladder which is the LCSP’s catchment area.
Unfortunately, some LCSP members have explained in meetings and communications that they are not happy posting on HoL because of the treatment they have received from ‘anonymous’ posters who may or may not be Ladder residents, - there is no way of telling because it is an open social network chat-site. I think that other Resident Associations feel the same and to my knowledge they do not use HoL as a forum - please correct me if I’m wrong.
One other issue is the copyright of HoL whereby any LCSP forum might be compromised, I’m sure you understand.
-John,
Please explain the 'subtle' treatment meted out at LCSP meetings, some evidence perhaps.
The quotation marks earlier, were because of their anonymity, and because I attempt to be anonymous following the savaging I received in the early days of HoL
If wish to see me kicked me off, I'm sure you know what to do
Here are some thoughts on anonymity in online forums from my colleague Kevin Harris (taken from the same research I've referenced on the next page:
"Making anonymity available as an option is important because it can protect people from reprisals, potentially allow the participation of people who experience oppression or specific discrimination, and encourage the diffident to participate. It is important for democracy to have public spaces where those less inclined to engage actively can still be comfortably present and not feel threatened.
"Against that, being identifiable helps to build trust and understanding, giving credibility to the individual, to whatever discussion they are taking part in, and to the website. The reverse presumably applies: a high proportion of anonymity could erode trust and the perceived benefits of participation."
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