A rather larger lorry tried to turn from St Ann's Road into Harringay Road this afternoon. After getting stuck trying to make what always looked like an impossible turn, he smashed up the plastic bollards protecting the new paving and then drove over the said paving.
In the picture above, you see the driver calling out to me. The exchange went something along the lines of:
"Oi what do you think you're doing!!?"
"Taking a picture of you getting stuck"
"Well thank you very bloody much".
You may also notice behind the lorry a van that couldn't wait. It nipped over the pavement.
The lorry driver finally gave up on the turn and then smashed into one of the cars waiting to get by.....heated exchange followed. Sadly I only had my iPhone with me.
After much huffing and puffing, the lorry driver reversed off down St Ann's, though where he managed to turn, I have no idea.
It looks like the entry into Harringay Road may have been narrowed recently. If there are any councillors reading, it might be an idea if a warning sign is posted somewhere further east before the point of no return (wherever that is).
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Well, yes, it has been narrowed. All part of the plan
For several years despite several tries I failed to persuade Haringey's "Sustainable Transport" (Highways) staff to erect an advisory 'Unsuitable for Heavy Goods Vehicles" sign on the entrance to a narrow side road leading to a very tricky junction near a park. So from time to time, residents' parked cars were damaged and HGVs got stuck trying to get through residential back streets.
The excuse given was that the signs couldn't be enforced. My advice to any residents suffering from this problem: take photos and formally complain to the Council. If you can afford it, see a lawyer to make a claim. Eventually the message will get through.
But who do you claim from and on what grounds? When I have stopped HGV drivers in the street they have either played dumb if the sign was there or played lawyer if the sign had been turned around or removed. If the sign is missing is the council really at fault? I am positive that someone was removing or vandalising the ones at the top of the ladder given the frequency with which they disappeared.
Sat Nav companies are the problem. The number of pictures of stuck foreign plated lorries that @RATN22 has tweeted beggar belief.
Rather him than me. I felt for him too. He was Mr Made-a-boob rather than Mr Nasty.
Thank you so much for this.
All councillors reading this thread! Please note that there is NO CROSSING from one side of Harringay Road to the other! You have to take the chance, as you trot across the junction, that a turning HGV will SQUASH you - see the main picture above. What will you do, pray, to rectify this situation?
All it needs is to add a pedestrian phase to the existing traffic lights at the junction of Harringay Rd and St Ann's Rd.
the same they could have done on the new traffic lights in Green Lanes by Falkland road. Instead they put a traffic light 20m away.
Why use something that is there, when you can put a traffic light in the wrong place and then leave cars travelling north stop in front of the crossing blocking it?
I guess it's all part of the "if we make driving around Harringay so impossible and awkward, eventually drivers will go somewhere else" traffic policy.
"....I only had my iphone..." do you mean you wished you had your shillelagh?
This junction must be one of the worst thought out in London. As HarringayBirder says, there's no pedestrian crossing at Haringey Road so if you're walking east from Green Lanes you can see what's coming west up St Ann's Road and know it'll want to turn north when the lights change, but the traffic coming south down Green Lanes turns left behind you and you just have to hope it isn't also going to do the loop up Haringey Road again (yes, drivers do that quite often, and of course, since nearly all are still indicating their left turn from Green Lanes, how are you meant to know what they intend even if you're looking over your shoulder?) Plus the other evening I was on a 341 which took two goes to do the turn into St Ann's it's now so narrow. I expect it looked lovely on the planners' drawingboard. Maybe they should get out more, preferably on foot.
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