Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Endymion Road Zebra Crossing
Does something need to be done before there is a serious accident or a death?
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Permalink Reply by Zoe Healey on
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I lived near there for a decade and used it nearly every day. It's always been bad. My only handy hint for making cars stop is the one time all the cars stopped nicely but were all staring goggle-eyed at me, I realized one of the local foxes was crossing behind me.
When they changed the one on Wightman Road near the station to a pelican crossing, it helped a bit, but think a Pelican crossing there might make the traffic flow even worse. I've always dreamed of a little foot bridge!
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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I don't know what it is about this crossing but it's very easy to miss it. Whether it's because of the hill, the trees or the bend in the road I don't know. Maybe it should have a halo of LED lights round the globe, as you see in other streets.
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Never really had a problem myself, and I live about 200 yards away and use it all the time.
Aside from that though, I do complain to my poor wife about cars going too fast along that stretch and even more often just dodge between cars queueing to get onto Green Lanes because I can't be bothered to walk past the entrance/exit of Finsbury Park before getting to the crossing. It's a very minor grumble though.
Crossing at Alroy Road, however, is most certainly just an accident waiting to happen...
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Permalink Reply by Salsa on
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People often don't stop for me at this crossing it. I think it is dangerous and needs some cameras put on it to catch the offending drivers!
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Permalink Reply by cheryl on
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The crossing on archway just as you approach Highgate station (travelling south) has a very effective speed and red light camera which would help. Unfortunately someone will have to be seriously hurt or killed before anything changes.
Alroy road is lethal, Joss, you are right about that.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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In addition to posting specific road issues on HoL, can I suggest people also contact the Council's Environment Department outlining their concerns and suggestions. Please give enough information so the location is completely clear. e.g. Name of road plus nearest house number; together with specific concerns and suggestions for improvement.
Extract from the page on road safety on the Council's website.
"Haringey Council has a continuing programme of schemes to improve the safety and operation of the highway network. Many of these schemes originate from issues reported by members of the public such as dangerous road junctions, requests for pedestrian crossing facilities, speed restraint measures (such as road humps) and minor issues such as new warning signs."
"If you would like to raise a concern or contact us about road safety in Haringey please contact us:"
Tel 020 8489 1335
Fax 020 8489 1331
Email frontline@haringey.gov.uk.And do reportback on HoL about the response you get!
(Tottenham Hale ward councillor to May 2014)
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I have received a reply from Robin Lockyer (under reference LBH/3243414) and their senior engineers will look into it.
The email was dated Monday 07.07.14 so hopefully we will hear back soon.
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Cheryl, this story in the Ham & High reports that Haringey council will decide shortly to have a 20 mph limit only for residential roads and roads with schools on them, rather than a borough-wide 20 mph limit.
Does Endymion Road, with houses only on one side and for only part of its length, count as 'residential' in the council's eyes, I wonder?
Similarly, St Ann's Road is far from being wall-to-wall housing.
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Permalink Reply by Madeline on
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Isn't it classified as a 'B' road (B150) and is therefore a 'main' route for traffic.
My road, Woodstock, was classified as a 'B' (part of the B150) and as such we had a lot of heavy traffic using it despite the fact that it is (apart from the school) a wholly residential road. It was, and still is, used as means to avoid the traffic lights at the junction of Stroud Green Rd and Upper Tollington Park. We campaigned successfully to have it de-classified from'B' to just an ordinary road although most maps still show it as a 'B' road.
But Endymion road is an important route from west to east with no easy alternative to use. It would have to be specially marked as a 20mph zone.
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Yes Madeline, thanks, I guess that will also have a bearing on whether to make it 20mph.
For those wanting to get the zebra crossing upgraded to a traffic-lighted puffin crossing, if Endymion Rd remains at 30mph when all around (including its Upper Tollington Park continuation) are 20, that higher speed limit might be useful as a bit of leverage.
Oh, and the Ordnance Survey still marks your road as a B road, and the west end of Upper Tollington Park as unclassified. How it's displayed on satnavs I wouldn't know (e.g. preferred route or not). For me, yes on the bike, no in the car.
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Permalink Reply by Jimbo on
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Now you've got me started...
So many times, as a pedestrian, I've either had to pull up short or scoot quickly out the way as drivers refuse to stop/slow down.... even when ON the crossing WITH a pushchair. It always stuns me what danger a driver will put others in just to get that hundred yards further down the road towards the next red traffic light. The bit that really gets me is that the drivers often 'pretend' they haven't seen you. They nonchalantly drive past trying to look concentrated, rarely acknowledge the presence of pedestrians and when they do, they wave a half hearted apology as they sail past as if that's a good enough measure to mitigate killing someone.
Someone is going to die on that crossing one day. I don't offer a solution, just bile.
Now.. I shall have a cup of tea to calm down. And a bowl of cornflakes.
Morning everybody!
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