Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Planning application for 80 flats on Railway Approach, Hampden Road N8
Just seen this application for a very large development behind the mosque on Wightman Road, on the Hornsey railway approach road.
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Permalink Reply by Nick G-T on
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The Railway Approach end of Hampden Road is a real blight on the area and is in dire need of regeneration. Granted, it is an industrial area, but it's an important thoroughfare for foot traffic and could as the designers suggest, encourage further development of the neighbouring properties. It could certainly improve the area; by making it safer, lighter in the evening and even more welcoming. First impressions of Harringay for passengers alighting Hornsey station isn't a particularly positive experience.
However it seems there is no provision for a regeneration pot to improve the road generally. During heavy rain the pavement is a stream of water (and the road - so no escape), the bollards (improvised railway track) could be replaced and trees planted. Indeed, the mosque and flat development behind the mansion flats should also be contributing.
Also, with the focus on disabled access throughout the development, there should be some corroboration with Network rail and the council to install lifts at the station.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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That is one really ugly building.
Eight stories high. All the charm of the brutalist Home Office building on Horseferry Road.
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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Funny, I was thinking that if you have to have a seven-storey block, this one looks a whole lot better than the threatened Grainger slab. I like the way it bends into a curve.
PS WCCC now has the date for the next stage of our Judicial Review - April 24th. More to follow.
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@ Neil, none of us doubts that Grainger do a fine job as a private landlord of the thousands of individual houses they have bought over the decades, to become England's (+more?) biggest private landlord. But it's a big jump from managing houses already built, to demolishing a whole town centre to build a 1970s fantasy of a High Street with private flats above. They have proved less than wonderful at negotiating with the existing business tenants and owners at Wards Corner - ask in the shops around the block there, what they think of Grainger's plan. It's also just a bit unfortunate that the houses they have bought on the site have been bricked up for years now rather then letting them to those in housing need.
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Permalink Reply by Karen Alexander on
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There is a Development Management Forum to discuss the issues of this planning application on Tuesday 23rd April 2013 at 7pm at The African Caribbean Leadership Company Ltd 9 Clarendon Road Hornsey London N8 0DJ for residents and interested parties to come with questions
http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/Applica...
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Permalink Reply by AxP on
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I think John D's comment sums it up - a really BIG ugly building.
There's no precedent for eight storeys in the area. I'm surprised this thread hasn't attracted more comment...
Hornsey and Turnpike Lane end of ladder are pretty special and deserve a more sensitive development than this. I'll be going to the planning meeting on 23rd to ensure I'm properly informed when objecting to the planning application.
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Lots of precedent, AxP. Dylan Thomas House on same site was 16 storeys. Its neighbour, Hallam House, must have been at least eight. Let's learn to view our habitat sub specie aeternitatis, or at least with one eye on recent history since 1964.
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Just to let everyone know that this massive development was refused planning permission by Haringey Council.
SCHEDULE OF REASONS FOR REFUSAL FOR DECISION REFERENCE No. HGY/2013/0470
The application shown above has been refused for the following reason(s):
1. The proposed development, by reason of its inadequate parking provision, is contrary to Saved UDP
Policies UD3 'General Principles', M10 'Parking, Local Plan Policy SP7 'Transport' and Policy 6.13
'Parking' of the London Plan would result in an unacceptable increase in on street parking and prejudice the
free-flow of traffic along the adjoining highways network.
2. The proposed layout of the development and its ability to provide safe access and egress for
pedestrians, cyclist and facilitate servicing by large vehicles in particular refuse and large rigid vehicles
would be adversely affected contrary to Policies Saved UDP Policy UD3'General Principles' and Local Plan
Policy SP7 'Transport'
3. The proposal constitutes a development of 760 habitable room per hectare resulting in a density of
accommodation which is excessive for the site and locality, contrary to Policy SP2 'Housing' of the
Haringey Local Plan (2013) the Housing SPD and Policy 3.5 'Quality and Design of Housing Developments'
of The London Plan.
4. The proposed development does not meet the standards set out in the London Housing Design Guide
and will therefore provide substandard residential accommodation by virtue of overshadowing to the
communal area, inadequate unit sizes and insufficient playspace provision contrary to Policy 3.5 'Quality
and design of housing developments' of the London Plan 2011.
5. The site of the proposed development lies within an area designated as an Ecological Corridor' The
benefits of the proposal would fail to outweigh the nature conservation value of the site and is therefore
contrary to Local Plan Policy SP13 'Open Space and Biodiversity' and London Plan Policy 7.19 Biodiversity
and Access to Nature and Policy 2.18 Green Infrastructure: The Network of Open and Green Spaces
6. The proposed development, due to its bulk, massing, detailing and materials, would be overbearing and
out of keeping with the scale, form and character of the area contrary to London Plan Policies 3.5 'Quality
and Design of Housing Developments', 3.8 'Housing Choice', 7.4 'Local Character' and 7.6 'Architecture' as
well as Haringey Local Plan Policy 7.6.
STATEMENT OF POSITIVE AND PROACTIVE ACTION IN DEALING WITH THE APPLICATION
To assist applications the Local Planning Authority has produced policies and written guidance, all of which
is available on the Council’s website and offers a pre-application advice service. The scheme does not
comply with guidance and no pre-application discussions were entered into. The Council is ready to enter
into discussions with applicants to assist in the preparation of a new application. The local planning
authority has delivered the decision in a timely manner.
17/05/2013
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