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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

For a few days now I've suspected something was afoot with Turnpike Lane's Banksy; it's been surrounded by scaffolding and tarpaulin since Wednesday - and there was a security van present for much of that time.

This morning I had a sneaky look under said tarpaulin to find it had been removed. I spoke to the guy rendering the wall and he said that after repeated attempts to gouge it out, the owner of the Poundland building had decided to take steps to 'preserve' it. He wasn't sure where it's gone...one can only wonder if it's been sold. Sad to see it go - it was nice to have a landmark of sorts...

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Video (from about 1 min 10 secs in) of the new piece going up, turn the sound off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL4E7wzsDcA

What is 'bad art' ?

Whispers paddyk of Poundland converting to a Poundart store ... for the masses  

begs the question given the banksy  was at poundland, shouldnt it have been sold for a quid?

More grafitti arrives, more disappears and CBS filming there today http://www.flickr.com/photos/eoghan_mac/8506100637/

The 'tap man' or the 'banker'. As commented on your link, by Paul Don Smith; interview with Paul here and his website. A prolific graffiti & street artist ...  for nearly 30 years. Thanks Eugene.

That's really interesting.  I read the interview.  Thanks.

In what seems to be the latest twist, The Evening Standard reports that Robert Davies and Les Gilbert - described as "millionaire property developers" - are the freehold owners of the Poundland building in Wood Green. They've blamed — guess who? — Haringey Council for the Banksy graffiti debacle. Yes, it seems they criticised the Council for "for not doing enough to protect the piece."

"Mr Davies and Mr Gilbert today claimed they were “mortified” at the public attention on the case.

Mr Davies said: “I cannot believe it’s over graffiti on a wall that has caused this. We had a case with one of our buildings where we had graffiti and the council told us they would fine us over £1000 if we didn’t remove it.

“The council have done nothing to protect it. They’ve not helped us in any way. They’ve just caused us more problems and more problems.”

So what do they think the Council should have done with lavish public funds to help out these mortified millionaires?

“In future, when Banksy does something like this again, the council should immediately record it as a piece of art and put a vented, bullet-proof system around it to protect it forever. A plaque could go on it.”

And given the Dear Leader's public pronouncements, who could blame them for thinking this?  Claire Kober has seen a populist cause with the chance to get some publicity. And, as usual, without thinking through any of the consequences.

Perhaps Cllr Kober will set up a new Commission to decide which is valuable street art and which worthless graffiti. I'm sure Bagsy, Dumpsy, Binsy, Snoresy and Tricksy will be happy to serve on it.

(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)

Dont think Ive ever heard so much rubbish before.

Mr Davies said: “I cannot believe it’s over graffiti on a wall that has caused this..."

Not can I believe you saw such a bit of typical graffiti, worth over half a million dollars.  And then attempted to cash it in.

" had an enormous problem with gangs in the area. They were extorting the owners, saying they would damage it and they had to protect it."

Really? - It amazes me that such street hoodies are able to find and contact you, with such a criminal mastermind idea, when no one else could track you down, during the media storm.

Colin, my guess is that Rob and Les probably aren't members of Harringay Online and may not read this discussion thread.

But in case anyone has contact details for these owners, I'd like to email and ask them what response they got from the Police when they reported the extortion threat. If we care about the survival of our high street shops then gangs running protection rackets seems a more serious issue than graffiti.

(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)

Alan, regarding the Council Leader, whom you often link to various events in the Borough, I would like to record a link of my own: my information is that Clare Kober has strongly backed the huge Heritage Lottery Fund bid application that if approved, will transform the biggest and most important building, by far, in our Borough (our charity's main asset, our People's Palace).

Clare Kober and the council as a whole, could not have been more helpful over this big genuine regeneration push.

Rejoice!

Is this the same council that condones the destruction of beautiful historical buildings all over the Borough (especially in Tottenham)? How hypocritical.

http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/grainger-plans-to-hang-...

If they (councillors in charge of "regeneration") deem these artworks to be that valuable to the community, they'll need to develop some sort of process to protect them. You wouldn't hang your Roy Lichtenstein outside on the wall for the public to admire without some sort of security, would you? A wall can be "listed", thus somewhat protected for its artistic or architectural merit, no? So what is being done to protect the one on the High Rd in Tottenham?
And Tower Hamlets wanted to or did sell its bronze Hepworth didn't it? Becuse it was too costly to protect from metal theives! What is the world coming too.

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