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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Application number HGY/2013/0149

23 Hewitt Road N8 0BS

Certificate of Lawfulness for change of use from C3 (residential) to C4 (Houses in Multiple Occupation)

Over to you.

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How do we object? 

Online is easiest - follow the link above. Be sure to tick one of the four boxes object/support/ neutral /comment only so it gets counted as an objection. Note this is a Cert of Lawfulness so it's already in use as HMO I think? Not familiar with the form, it includes drawings re conversion.

great. thanks!

Cert of lawfulness means that there's a claim that its already been used for the use applied. In the case of conversions, a couple of members of this site found that a good number of such claims have in the past been fraudulent.

Any objection is considered but to have full force they should refer to planning law and council policy.

I flagged this one up to the nascent Hewitt Road Residents group this morning. Are you in touch with them?

Me or Pipplypig? I am faithful to PaGRA.

There's very little info on that planning app. Someone should go and count the doorbells.

Do more than that. Go down to the planning offices and look through the file. Cross check all bills and paper work for forgeries.

In these fait accompli cases, the onus is on the applicant to prove current and continuous use going back at least 4 years. Only objections which supply contrary evidence are considered. This would definitely include proof that an applicant has forged utility bills etc. 

The authorities do seem quite lax and, I believe, often accept signed affidavits.

Unless the law has changed, with HMOs it was ten years.

Pipplypig. I figure you'd have less reason to be, Pam!

I didnt know about the residents group but would like to be in touch with them. So am I right in thinking there is little point in filling out the council online form as I dont have any evidence or should I go ahead.

Also when I had a quick look there seemed to be something about my details becoming public. Is this the case and if so should I be worried about an angry landlord contacting me?

No, I think it's still worth going ahead whatever you say, but the more you can speak to the legal and policy issues the better.

There seems to be something wrong with the drawing of existing building. The house has not been divided into independent units and the only entrance to the ground floor front room with the bay window is through the window.

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