Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Bye bye blossom as mass tree culling planned for Ladder

Following the  last tree removal programme in the Ladder in 2008, Haringey Council have issued information about a new tree cull programme. 46 trees in total are due for the chop. Last time round Hewitt Road lost one of its two remaining cherry trees. This time they're back for the very last. Other roads will share similar fates.

Apparently the trees are either dead, diseased or have "outgrown their locations". But, worryingly, this time there's currently no statement about whether replacements will be planted. I'm awaiting a return of call from the officer responsible with an update on the situation.

Sadly, even when we get replacemeents, they tend to be more ornamental style trees. Here's what the  Trees for Cities organisation has to say about that practice: 

As the population of London continues to rise, space for people and trees is becoming increasingly difficult to find. Tree planting trends in recent years have shifted to smaller, shorter lived ornamental species. Whilst these trees still play a vital role in improving the city's environment, they are unable to provide the maximum benefits in climate regulation, air filtration and habitat that larger canopy trees provide. In addition the benefits of tree planting are at their highest when the trees reach maturity and so the longer a tree lives the more it has to contribute. 

Below are the trees we're about to lose:      

 Allison Road  

Outside 34

   Beresford Road  

Between 78/80 
Near 1 
Outside 131

   Burgoyne Road  

Between 23/25

 Cavendish Road  

Outside 61  
Outside 62 
Between 32/34 
Between 53/55 
Between 82/84

 Coningsby Road  

Near 7

 Duckett Road  

O/S 42

 Effingham Road  

Outside 7 
Between 69/71

 Falkland Road  

Outside 58 
Between 77/79 
Outside 74 
Between 108/110 
Between 100/102

   Frobisher Road  

Opposite 37 
Side of the Greek church 
Opposite 84 
Outside 52 
Between 86/88

 Green Lanes  

Outside 391

 Hampden Road  

Outside 5  
Outside the church  
nr the social services building

 Hewitt Road  

Outside 74

 Lausanne Road  

O/S 65

  Lothair Road North  

Outside 77  
O/S 103  
Opposite 99

 Mattison Road    

O/S 42

   Pemberton Road  

Outside 34

  Raleigh Road  

Outside 3

 Seymour Road 

Outside 52
Outside 10

 Sydney Road  

Outside 64 
O/S 38

 Tancred Road  

Side of 34 Endymion Road

 Warham road  

BT 27/29

 Woollaston Road  

Between 3/5

 Wightman Road  

Outside 258  
Outside 293  
Outside 140

All enquiries to:

Clare Pappalardo, Senior Arboricultural & Allotments Officer, London Borough of Haringey, 020 8489 5774,  clare.pappalardo@haringey.gov.uk

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Permalink Reply by 2thfh47dr63xg on May 18, 2012 at 10:29

Seems a hell of a lot of trees in one hit. If you contact Alex Fraser, our hard-working tree officer, or his deputy Oliver Tong, thay may have details. Haringey are pretty good at replacing trees, and Alex has a policy of doing it with native trees where possible, thus avoiding "Lollipop trees" that are of little use to us or the local wildlife. Need I add, though, that with cutbacks etc etc Alex has fewer new trees to plant than for years.....If you do get a street tree PLEASE LOOK AFTER IT. Mostly by chucking a bucket of water or washing up water on it when it hasn't rained for a week [if that's ever going to happen!] and clearing grass etc from round toe tree pit to allow water in. Peter [Chair Tree Trust for Haringey] www.ttfh.org.uk

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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on May 18, 2012 at 10:50

As Chair of the Tree Trust, Peter, you're probably one of the best people to help make that contact. To ensure a dialogue/informational mode.

(Tottenham Hale ward coucillor)

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Permalink Reply by Karen Alexander on May 18, 2012 at 11:00

I am liasing with the council on this also. I was terribly disappointed to see the plan to remove so many trees - I post again shortly

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Permalink Reply by matt on May 18, 2012 at 12:52

So there's been no consultation on this whatsoever. There's a surprise. Karen, you had better hurry as according to John, who has just posted on here, they have started chainsawing the trees today on Hampden ... (ie. phone & email - you could request Clare's mobile number)

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Permalink Reply by Alison P on May 18, 2012 at 11:00

What a shame, especially after losing so many last year. I'm still smarting from that total balls up that allowed contractors to cut down the huge tree in the old BDC carpark (now Haws and Curtis) - not a great testament to Haringey's ability to value what they have.

Like others I'm also struck by how much greener western parts of the borough are. It can't all be down to residents being more organised or caring more - if the insurance companies play such a key role in this then wouldn't their impact be all the greater in areas where homes cost more?

I agree with Cuckoos point - can't we do something to manage the older trees we have rather than just cutting them down and replacing them with slightly anemic ones?

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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on October 11, 2012 at 13:20

Alison, just going through this thread from top to bottom, and say this comments. Do you remember if there were obliged to replace the trees and if they ever have (It is yonks since I have been up there.)?

Anyone?

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Permalink Reply by Alison P on October 11, 2012 at 13:40

You mean the Haws and Curtis trees? In the other post (link in my reply above) there is a reference to these minutes from a recent LSCP (ie pre Sept 10 2009) meeting:

"Tree Felling (ex BDC 590 Green Lanes). LBH have accepted that, although Tree Preservation orders were in place, incorrect information was relayed both to BDC and the tree surgeons. Record-keeping procedures etc are now being thoroughly overhauled. Meanwhile, the new owners of the land are consulting with LBH tree officers with a view to planting new large-growing trees, such as ash or London plane."

My reading of that is that there should have been discussion about planting new trees - but 'consulting' doesn't mean doing does it! I don't think (but couldn't swear hand on heart) that any ever did get planted - anyone else know for sure?