The BBC is today drawing attention to two think tank pamphlets arguing that David Cameron would do well to revive the ideas behind the Big Society.
Professor Anthony Seldon, master of Wellington College, who wrote a pamphlet for Policy Exchange, believes the Big Society concept should be resurrected with "more substance" and with a more "thoughtful" government and more "responsible" and "responsive" citizenry.
Chief executive of the RSA Matthew Taylor, who wrote their pamphlet, says the Big Society "needs big citizens", with people being more autonomous and responsible.
Amongst the ideas promoted by Policy Exchange for strengthening communities are:
The piece on the Beeb's website has an interesting 5 minute snippet from an interview with Taylor and Seldon.
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"Oh come on this is a little bit silly - the religious commitment to scouting is about as key as the religious commitment millions of parents make to get their kids into a CoE school - ie. cursory at best."
I was quoting directly from their own rule book. The application process requires you to declare a religion - and there are specific questions about your beliefs asked at interview. As an adult you sign an agreement to implement the religious policy - which means providing training in religious topics which are a required element of the entire Scout Award Scheme. Their religious policy sits in their rule book above their child protection policy, and their own in house magazine declared in the last edition 'At its core, Scouting is a faith based organisation'. Finally, next to faith schools, a large source of complaints to both the British Humanist Association and the National Secular society is from adults and children refused membership of the organisation because they won't swear an oath to god. Sorry about the side track, but just wanted to just fill you in on the detail.
There's always The Woodcraft Folk
I know! I believe they are quite popular round here.
Have been meaning to get in touch with the WCF for some time for my 8yr old and myself. Have just had a look at the web site and there appears to be a group in Hornsey but I wasn't able to find contact details - would you or anyone you know be able to point me in the right direction?
Hi Steve, I'm not involved WCF, but I know someone who might still be. I'll try and contact him and get back to you (unless there is a Woodcrafter who reads and answers this before I can, of course)
Big Society - the concept would make me laugh if what lay behind it wasn't so tragic! Let's not forget that it was Maggie Thatcher and Cameron's Tory party that destroyed any sense of community by actively cultivating a society based on individualism and greed back in the 80's. These very same people decimated communities in large parts of the country eg, coal mining/steel/ship building etc. In effect we moved from a nation that produced goods and created wealth to one that manufactures little and strives to consume 'mountains'. This so called great nation of ours has been propped up by being one of the world's finance capitals - an economy based on plastic money and 'wooden dollars' - a bubble waiting to be burst! As a result the next generation has little to aim for while much of the current one has to work longer, pay more and receive less, if anything, in retirement! There can be no substitute for the hope and respect that comes with worthwhile employment. I would not discourage anyone from voluntary work but to suggest the so called 'Big Society' is some kind of panacea for the ills caused by those who promote it is perverse in the extreme.
I have to say I largely agree with you. I started volunteering at the end of the 70's and at that time people had the kind of jobs that gave them the free time to do community work. But then of course came the Thatcher revolution and suddenly people were working longer hours - despite all the advances in technology. Bosses who previously would not mind if someone took Friday afternoon off in order to pack the gear to take the Scouts to camp suddenly refused. So, yes, I can see exactly where you are coming from.
My view too though is based on what I have said earlier. It seems to me that the 'big society' idea is a plan to get volunteers - who have no rights of any kind whatsoever - to do work that ought to be done by paid staff.
Will the Duchess of Cambridge have to undergo a CRB check before being accepted as a volunteer scout leader ?
Be a bit embarassing if she failed
Yes, and of course it will be done for free - because of course, The Scouts successfully lobbied the government to give them free CRB checks, which is why they have had over £12 MILLION pounds worth done since the CRB came in, while schools and hospitals have to pay £38.00 a pop.
And of course, once she has passed her CRB to become a Scout Mistress, she will be in the unique position of being able to stand at the Scout Hut door and say to parents 'Sorry, you ain't coming in here to teach your own kids to tie their shoe laces, not because you are a 'wrong un' but merely because you are an atheist!'
CRB checks are currently free for all volunteers, not just for potential scout leaders. Although the governments proposed changes to the scheme will effectively end that.
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