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Furniture store being advertised for Queen's Head despite planning conditions

I've just picked up a tweet from John McMullan with the following text and picture:

 

Ha ha! Queen's Head Harringay kept as a pub... and I laughed and laughed and laughed.

 

 

My understanding is that planning permission was granted with provisos that included:

the applicant retain the use of the ground floor of the building as a public house. A feasibility study would have to be conducted using a team approved by the council if the applicant wanted to, in the future, change the use of the ground floor

At the very least, it appears that the developers are acting in bad faith.

I've been on the phone to planning and was told that the decision has yet to be published with these provisos.

Perhaps our councillors might intercede on this if possible.

Tags supplement: More conversations on this topic in the Friends of the Queen's Head Group

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This is very much to the detriment of the community. Occupy Queen's Head?

I was just writing something eerily similar...

It was pretty much gutted when turned into the risible sports zone and apparently being run down (so much more lucrative to redevelop than try and run a pub) from the huge pile of smashed wood and other detritus outside the pub at the weekend looks like the job has been finished.

I take it that the building listing didn't protect the interior then?

I seem to remember the planning application said that the ground floor would be retail units.

Frankly, I would rather have a furniture shop than a pub with dodgy clientele.

 

Why assume that it would be a dodgy clientele? Don't forget how dreadful the Salisbury was until taken over by Punch. The Brownswood was pretty run down until recently. A good landlord can turn around a pub's fortune. There is a real issue with Haringey pubs being lost, most recently The Oakdale.  

Not a sports zone time pub. A nice local pub/eating establishment overlooking the park. It's not beyond the abilities of council to think how the place might be socially viable and desirable and suit purposes of business, as indeed the apartments would have. I mean every single pub isn't dodgy, right?  Well, maybe that's waht the economy needs right now: for us all to go buy new furniture. Sorry, am just a little piqued and it sounds like there's been funny business going on. Anyway, I'll await more reports on the matters.

Cheer up - it could have been a betting shop :-)

This is precisely the problem with planning I think. Not enough ability for the council to say (under proper scrutiny and accountability) "no, we have enough of *establishment type x*, we will only license this premises as an *establishment type y*". It would take a big shift in power allocation (including, by implication, over rent) but I feel like more and more people today take this attitude to what are (ultimately) community assets. That way there could be fewer betting shops, more high street banks, fewer faceless little offies, more tradespersons' outlets, fewer Tesco Metros etc etc.

Too many councils have abused that ability in the past, that's precisely why they don't have it anymore.

In which case I fear the baby has been thrown out with the bathwater

The company appear to specialise in mattresses... and they would be imported from Turkey, just like the IKEA ones.

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