Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Harringay Charter to be launched - help make Harringay wonderful
Back in the Spring of 2008, on the back of HoL's Residents' Priorities Survey and Hazel Blears' charter work, I proposed the idea of a Charter for Harringay. By the summer I'd got some political take-up and the council agreed to take it forward.
My idea was for locals and the Council to work together to create something that locals could use to create a shared vision for Harringay and practical steps to make it happen.
It's taken two and a half years to get to the point of having a final draft that can be shared.
Input has come from our survey and a couple of consultation events run by the Council. This raw data was then used by a small group working under the auspices of the Green Lanes Strategy Group. That group, chaired by Cllr. Nilgun Canver and latterly Cllr. Zena Brabazon, included residents from all parts of Harringay and traders.
Whilst the Green Lanes Strategy Group is invitation only, I think locals were given ample opportunity to contribute and input has probably been pretty representative of what local opinion wants. At any rate it's as representative as the group could make it. Believe me, I worked hard to try and make it so.
The attached draft document provides a framework around which detailed plans can be constructed. Whilst it may not be everything I'd like it to be, my hope is that it nonetheless provides:
- a broad brush picture of locals' aspirations for the neighbourhood
- the basis of a vehicle for residents to have more influence in creating the neighbourhood they want.
The rest will be up to us; up to us to get involved and make things happen. Little will change unless enough folk are prepared to get involved
At this stage it would be great if you could offer constructive feedback. You can either do so on this forum or more formally to our neighbourhood manager Dasos Maliotis. You'll have your own reactions, but some themes you might like to consider are:
1. What do you think about the general idea of the charter?
2. Any feedback on the 'commitments' outlined in the specific themes?
3. What's the best 'machinery' to get action around the charter and get things to happen?
4. What part should residents play? How should the Council be involved?
Tags for Forum Posts: Harringay Charter, glsg
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HStACharterFinalDraft.pdf, 88 KB
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Superb stuff Hugh. I know this wasn't easy for you and it probably felt like pushing custard up hill at times but you didn't give up and you have produced a very professional document on our behalf for free.
Just curious about one thing. Who slipped 'and only use pedestrian designated crossing points' in there? The only pedestrian designated crossing points I am aware of in Harringay are on Wightman Rd and Green Lanes.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Ooh-er, that must have been slipped in when I wasn't looking. Guess it means we need to get more PDCPs then!
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Permalink Reply by Dom G on
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Hi Hugh,
The file name for the Charter seems to be pdf.exe so I'm unable to open it on my Mac as a PDF. Are you able to upload just the PDF file (or am I doing something wrong?). Thanks.
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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Try this
(I had the same problem but when I renamed the file i.e. deleted the exe bit it loaded fine as a pdf)
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Permalink Reply by Mr Growbag on
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Hugh - I've read the document, and it's a great summary of many things which I also believe would make the area better. Thanks for producing it!
I have feedback on your second point. I can see how it could be possible to implement the items in the left hand column through getting the council/ local businesses etc on board with the Charter and imagine that these could generate significant local improvement.
My first thought on the right hand column of the charter is that it's trickier as it requires local individuals to change their behaviour in order to create a stronger community/better environment. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the practical aspects of getting enough individuals in the borough to buy in to the Charter in order to achieve this. I wonder whether the people who are causing most of the problems the the right hand column addresses are going to want to engage with a charter?
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It's interesting but surely the first item on any such agenda has to be a complete rejection of any measures that involve cuts to housing, health, Care and Social Services, old peoples’ homes, day centres, play schemes, youth and education services, teenage pregnancy support services, support for children with disabilities and second language speakers, libraries, community centres, green spaces, leisure facilities, voluntary projects and public service jobs, all of which the council is proposing for Haringey.
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Hugh has been working on the Charter for years. It talks about "the next five years and beyond". I suspect that what you're talking about is out of scope. Please open up another discussion and we'll have another bash at it.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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@ rwill
Since those items account for about 85% of Haringey Council's expenditure, how are you going to fund them ? Increase council tax ? Burn the bankers ? Get real.
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"Since those items account for about 85% of Haringey Council's expenditure, how are you going to fund them ? Increase council tax ? Burn the bankers ? Get real."
Sorry for interrupting the discussion about making Harringay wonderful with my ideas about how not to absolutely devastate the area, just thought it was important to point out that the same council supporting this plan actually has a set of far more destructive plans to hand, a reality you seem keen to ignore. But then maybe you feel you can; maybe you're not a big user of any of the services I mentioned. It seems to me very odd though that someone contributing to a discussion about how to improve an area can have such a cavaliar attitude to cuts which will infinitely worsen the life chances of the majority of peope who live in said area.
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Hugh put a lot of effort (and if we were to hire him in the private sector to do this for us it would cost us a packet) into the Charter. Don't hijack his post.
I'm not going to open another discussion but Ian Willimore has already blogged about the same thing you're talking about here and you're free to resurrect that with a new post on that which I will be hapy to join in on, but THIS post is the Harringay Charter post. K?
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