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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

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Pedestrians who dropped litter in Wood Green got more than they bargained for when they were caught in the act last week.

Enforcement officers caught 120 people littering the streets and issued each one with a fixed penalty notice of £75.

Cllr Nilgun Canver, Cabinet Member for Neighbourhoods, said:

"We really mean business. The council cannot continue to pay thousands of pounds of taxpayers' money to pick up after litter louts. People must take responsibility for disposing of their incidental rubbish.

"There are litter bins and recycling bins along the high street and there is no excuse not to use them.If people are caught littering or throwing cigarette butts onto the pavement, they can expect a hefty penalty."

As part of the council's zero tolerance policy on littering, a week long enforcement operation took place in Wood Green High Road aimed at targeting litter louts.

No person under the age of 18 or deemed vulnerable was issued with a fixed penalty.


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can they please start doing this on green lanes!
I'm sure a quick email to Harringay resident & St Ann's councillor Nilgun Canver would get a sympathetic hearing.
We really need this in Harringay. I constanly see people casually throwing litter onto the pavement when there is a bin only a few yards away from them. It really lets the area down. I was in the Sainsbury's car park the other day. 2 boys had parked there car there to eat their McDonalds. When they finished they just chucked the rubbish out of the window and drove away!
Obviously people who do this don't give a damn about the area but if they have to pay a heavy fine maybe it will stop them from doing it again.
i was surprised to see that Haringey's streets ranked only somewhere in the middle-filthiest of the capital's 33 boroughs, according to the GMB union's report of this year's audit commission figures.

Thats Haringey not Harringay by the way. I suspect if a ward-by-ward analysis was done, this area would come a fair bit further down the rankings
Interesting. Thank you.
Finally! But one week is not enough, and they can't have been very vigilant if they only caugh 120 people over 7 days, that's only 17 people per day! I bet I could catch 17 in about 15 minutes.
I guess they're starting off by sending a message and hoping to encourage behaviour change? I'd endorse that approach. Imagine the stick they'd take if they went overboard with the fines.
I agree Will. There's no point in taking a softly-softly approach. Everyone who litters knows it's anti-social so they should just face up and pay the penalty!
The cynic in me wonders how many of the fines will actually be paid.
What do they do for ID when issuing a ticket on the street? (Or on a bus?) Take fingerprints?
Your comment is not cynicism, John. It's realism. You raise a perfectly reasonable question. Why don't you ask Cllr Nilgun Canver, the "cabinet" member?
( nilgun.canver@haringey.gov.uk )
Or Mr Niall Bolger, Director of Urban Environment. (niall.bolger@haringey.gov.uk)

Including a brief explanation of:
● What evidence is needed to impose a fine?
● How many fines are paid/unpaid?
● What happens if they're not paid?
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I've spent many absorbing days reporting, thinking about, and making suggestions for tackling problems of litter, dumping and fly-tipping. Detecting and fining the people who do it is far from straightforward. Changing behaviour (the desirable longer-term aim) is even harder.

The really bad news is that one or more 'stealth' dumpers are now using invisibility cloaks. They're completely undetectable by a CCTV camera located right next to the dumping location.
I've just read your link Alan. I have come across before now the term "operative" that you quoted ("operatives have been instructed"). For some reason I think of the maths term "operator" when I see it. It doesn't contain much meaning you might agree.

Yesterday, in another Council context (not LBH) a friend mentioned coming across the term Service User. This had confused my friend when he heard it out of context, as it probably would anyone. Apparently this meant a disabled person, but you wouldn't get the meaning from the municipal mangling alone.

Pompous and obfuscatory language does not help anyone!

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