Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Haringey to get self-driving taxis
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Permalink Reply by Jamie Harper
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They are significantly safer than human drivers. 127 million miles of driving data show that.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton
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Sources of data please, Jamie Harper and if possible online links. Do you have any professional relevant links?
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The source is linked to below the table. Here's another, and an earlier peer reviewed study.
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Permalink Reply by Mark Michaels
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I love this! The guy who a half a dozen times a day posts as fact ideology grounded only in propaganda is suddenly an empiricist.
One might wonder why he's questioned your data point. The answer is because the Marxist Left depends on permanent underclass to shore up its base and hold power: If AI driven vehicles take over the commercial driver sector - which there is no reason why they shouldn't other than technological limitation - that's one less excuse to justify illegals being here. They won't be needed as Uber and Bolt drivers anymore.
Right now that seemingly cheap 10 quid Uber ride really isn't such a great deal when the driver's family is getting free school, health care, living and utilities which the crushing 45% (60% effective) tax rate on actual producers supports.
Waymo "drivers" won't need any of that. And the concern therefore is that's as many as 10 less leftist voters for each mini-cab driver that Waymo and its competitors prevent in theory (ie., the driver, his wife(ves) and their eight children who from April we'll be paying even more to support).
I will reference this data that confirms 2/3rds of the populace in this country takes more than it puts in as much as I can. The term "unsustainable" is often bandied about, but this context is a rare instance where it is used properly. It all sounds crazy in a post about Waymo cars, but this is why there is and will opposition to ostensibly innocuous things like Waymo from people like this site's self described "Democratic Socialist".
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Maddy have you confirmed with Haringey Council that this "news" has actually been confirmed by them? The Time Out item seems to be one of several similar mousetraps to capture people's data.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter
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NOT all self-driving vehicles are the same. There is a big difference in safety and technology between:
- the one that uses costly LIDAR (WayMo); and
- the other supposed contender that depends on far-cheaper cameras (Musk's RoboTaxis)
Over many years, WayMo self-driving taxis have been comprehensively tested in cities in the USA, and are likely to be much safer on average than human drivers.
However, Musk's grossly over-hyped CyberCabs are inferior and they are in limited early testing in a few US cities. A stage from which I doubt it will ever progress much beyond, due to safety concerns. It would be disturbing new if London were getting Musk's half-baked technology. But that is not the case.
If WayMo's LIDAR-guided cars were widely adopted, then there is likely to be a reduction in accidents of all types. And a possible benefit over time, may be a reduction in the number of cars owned, driven and parked.
Of course, this would mean that fewer fares would get to enjoy banter with London's Finest.
On the other hand, WayMo may go sarf of the river and even to Catford.
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