Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Mandatory ID cards - sign the petition against them
Nobody benefits from the introduction of these cards
Help stop this doomed government's last spiteful act.
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Permalink Reply by JJ B on
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This is a very légitimâte concern which I share and worry about quite a lot too.
But that probably happens already. Or that capacity is already built into so many systems...
The question is...do the advantages of providing a PRACTICAL, NATIONALLY RECOGNISED (i+.e cannot be arbitrarily contested by some shop keeper or official), UNIVERSAL, FREE... means of proving one's ID, outweigh the disadvantages? I argue that they do.
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I don't think the existing data sets are as linked or potentially linkable as you might fear, JJB. The data is invariably held on different systems that don't 'talk' to each other and in inconsistent formats. You will see this particularly in the NHS and other public sector bodies. Government service delivery would no doubt improve if these data sets were to be standardised and centralised. However, I believe the risks of misuse by malevolent actors and incompetent staff outweigh the potential benefits.
There is nothing to say that shopkeepers or other service gatekeepers would be any more likely to accept the new mandatory ID than they would a British passport or UK driving license.
Introducing a new mandatory ID would come with significant new cost. For example, an administrative body of staff would be needed (all on public sector pensions), there would be production costs, new systems for storing the data and, crucially, a comprehensive and ongoing marketing campaign in different languages to reach all corners of society including the shopkeepers.
Instead it would be better to simply promote the types of government issued ID already in existence that should prove identity and right to work or access services.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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I'm undecided about mandatory ID cards, but the New Labour government is not necessarily doomed. They have political luxuries, plus one heavy wooden albatross.
New Labour in Parliament have a massive majority but they (we) need a better leader. On a national basis, they have an ample four years in which to get the ship of State back onto an even keel.
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Locally however—including London—New Labour's window of opportunity closes in seven months' time. The local administration in Haringey often fails to get the basics right and continues largely arrogant and detached.
And it's one thing to have teetered on the verge of bankruptcy and another to have three years worth of council accounts unaudited: with the shocking external Audit Opinion, of No Opinion.
Meanwhile the leadership—some with Parliamentary ambition—remains distracted by preparations for borough of culture 2027, after being "crowned" and "awarded" earlier this year with this Buggins Turn accolade.
The rebel borough Cabinet & management continue in a symbiotic, mutual-admiration society. More than 40 staff are paid between £100k and £200k, with commensurate competence not always on display. Residents—service users and council tax payers—are sometimes left out in the cold.
Largely unaccountable, they often forget who pays them and who they are supposed to serve.
Are we not ill-served?
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You're getting good of this Clive!
Post 1: I've lost my cat
Clive response: Lost you say? Haringey Labour has lost its way as well...
Post 2: Do I need planning permission for my shed?
Clive response: The planning system under Labour in Haringey is broken, allegations of dodgy dealings are swept under the carpet, reports provided to police remain redacted and uninvestgated...
Post 3: Noisey neighbours, what can I do?
Clive: Noise you say? What about the Labour racket in Haringey...
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ONE cool cat—that hasn't lost it's way or its hearing—serves as a metaphor for those fed up with the council's regular racket in Finsbury Park.
Sound up! ~
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zmmwR58sbWU
Residents ~ are played splendidly by the Black Cat
Haringey New Labour – is played cheerfully by White Dog
Council Major Events Policy – a prop, cast to perfection by Plastic Squeaker
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