Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Another Assault on Our Road Use
Just when you thought Haringey Council's anti-residents parking assault had been beaten back a bit.....
Now the Council intends to spend more money it doesn't have on narrowing the borough's roads - including through routes - and further eliminating space to load, unload and park.
This time, the proposals are characterised as a "Kerbside Strategy". When I last looked, "kerbside" was either "road" and "pavement" separated by a kerb, and sometimes "road" and "verge" likewise.
Now, in a deceptively-worded policy trail in a Commonplace consultation at https://haringeykerbsideandevstrategies.commonplace.is, we are asked to accept that parts of "road" are to be made available available for other uses:
"The kerbside is the space that sits on the road next to the pavement. You might currently find cars, trees, cycle parking, or taxi bays here. Well-designed streets and spaces should benefit everyone, not just a few. We are considering proposals for other kerbside uses such as more trees, planting, car clubs, seating and outdoor eating areas and deliveries. "
The consultation that follows does not ask whether you agree to removing parts of the road for the other uses. It just asks questions as to what one would like to see or prefer for these uses. It also asks you to " Suggest locations for things you would like to see prioritised at the kerbside in Haringey." https://haringeykerbsideandevstrategies.commonplace.is/en-GB/map/Ke...
Some may disagree, but you may want to respond to the survey at Commonplace, and/or to tell your councillors that you do not want any further narrowing of roads or reduction of the limited space currently available for loading and parking in busy parts of the borough. The proposed narrowing at Turnpike Lane is a good example of a costly further restriction in an already slow-moving through road.
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Permalink Reply by Brian
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I identified and extracted the feedback. There are three documents each relating to individual LTNs: -
You can read the reports that concluded the trial LTNs and the reasons for the council’s decision on our website.
Review of St. Ann’s Low Traffic Neighbourhood trial: https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/ieIssueDetails.aspx?IId=89010&a...
Review of Bruce Grove West Green Low Traffic Neighbourhood trial, including the 7.5 tonne weight limit on Downhills Way and Belmont Road: https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgAi.aspx?ID=80905#mgDocuments
Review of Bounds Green Low Traffic Neighbourhood trial: https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgAi.aspx?ID=80906#mgDocuments
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You can read the reports that concluded the trial LTNs and the reasons for the council’s decision on our website here:
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Permalink Reply by Sarah
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Where is the part that calls disabled people The Disabled? A term which is quite offensive to disabled people.
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There are six references to 'the disabled' in Haringey Council's report (in the review of the Bounds Green LTN report anyway.)
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also I don't have time to comb through all of the data but it's interesting that people reported business going down when in fact card spend went up
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Not in Myddleton Rd. they didn't: the traders I spoke to said they were down by between 15% and 50%. Don't take my word for it: pop down there and speak with the local businesses as I did. I am sure they would be pleased to have people walking through their doors.
(See attached notice.)
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson
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So the hard data from Mastercard showing an increase in spend since the introduction of the LTN is negated by a poster in a window and people saying things?
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter
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people saying things
I seem to recall—at the height of the fury, fuming and frothing by anti-LTN fanatics—that one bloke wrote on social media that Haringey Council was killing his family (through the trial of low traffic neighbourhoods).
Such is the hyperbole and hysteria of a few car-owners.
The result is delays and stalling of LTNs and half-baked or quarter-baked measures. Due to the absence of clear resolute leadership, the timid conservative approach of Haringey Council satisfies no one. Meanwhile, other Boroughs like next-door Camden continue to forge ahead:
Camden High Street goes traffic-free in 18-month trial
Dartmouth Park cycle ride to support healthy neighbourhood
In our Borough, we have the prospect of more years of action-plan production, without meaningful action.
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Permalink Reply by Elizabeth M
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That bloke (or one with the same complaint who says he is a cyclist bus driver) writes constantly mostly on X about how his family are being killed by anyone who doesn't want plenty of cars everywhere. Haringey need to be bolder.
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I recall one of the anti-LTN people claiming (on a placard they were holding) that 15 minute cities meant that people would only be allowed to leave their homes to places that were within a 15 minute walk.
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