Do Foxes 🦊 raid your food waste bin?
Haringey have some new, lockable fox-proof bins that are meant to be good. Order for free here
https://x.com/haringeycouncil/status/1824748043452694830t=Ojy4IS90P...
If they work, spread the word....
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Got mine within 48 hours. Great service.Â
Oh, the folly of humankind
This salutary tale sprung immediately to mind
"Back in 1980s, Yosemite National Park was having a serious problem with bears: They would wander into campgrounds and break into the garbage bins. This put both bears and people at risk.
So the Park Service started installing armored garbage cans that were tricky to open—you had to swing a latch, align two bits of a handle, that sort of thing. But it turns out it's actually quite tricky to get the design of these cans just right. Make it too complex, and people can't get them open to put away their garbage in the first place.
People are lazy and impatient. Bears lack some intelligence, but they have all the time in the world. Make the garbage cans too hard to open, and people will get annoyed. Make it more accessible, and the smartest bears with nothing better to do will be able to get in too.
Said one park ranger, "There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists"
https://www.velvetshark.com/til/til-smartest-bears-dumbest-tourists...
Look at it as a way of speeding up fox evolution AB!
 I ordered mine Sunday lunch time and it had been delivered by 11:30am Monday - Well done Veolia!
Does anyone have any suggestions what we do with the old one?
Cleaned they're great for sewing bits and bobs, all those charging wires you can quite bring yourself to throw out or dry cat food.Â
Thank you for posting this! I had trouble using the website, but rang and got through very quickly.Â
I hope to receive mine within five working days, which is great!Â
Fiona
How are they different from the 'old' food bins? I can't see any differentiation on the website ....
Thanks for this. I was very taken aback by the advice, too, that caddy bine liners were free from libraries. We've never had this spelt out and everyone around here buys them from supermarkets. Also that you can get free kitchen caddies. This info should not be buried deeply in websites. It could, for example, be put in the annual Veolia leaflet detailing dates of collections.
I thought the free caddy liners were just for residents living on estates, but maybe that's changed.
I actually live in a street property now but still have a roll of free liners from when I lived on an estate. I have a compost bin and bokashi bins now, so I don't really use my food waste bin.Â
Using the food waste bin instead of putting food in your general waste can save the council hundreds of pounds.
I imagine I save a lot more with my own closed loop food waste recycling.Â
Other councils offer discounted compost bins and bokashi bins. Our neighbours Camden and Hackney offer them for £5 each. If only Haringey also did. It might encourage more residents to recycle their own food waste. (Though note this isn't allowed on estates, even if you have a garden having a compost bin is against the terms of the standard Haringey lease. I haven't seen the Haringey tenancy agreement but I assume it has similar rules)
You used to be able to buy subsidised compost and water butts previously. I bought water butts using this scheme in March 22 using a Haringey resident discount on https://getcomposting.com/.
https://www.nlwa.gov.uk/article/home-compostingÂ
This still seems to work for Camden and Islington residents but no longer discount for Haringey residents.Â
 The free caddy liners from the library are for all. I found out by chance because my daughter overheard someone ask for them in the library earlier this year. Like others locally I had been buying them in the supermarket.Â
This confirms what I suspected - that they deliberately suppress this info to reduce demand.... actually when I took this up with Veolia they pointed out on the info where it states this but typically this is quite buried. None of my neighbours knew!
I saw this too, but since when were they free? I'd heard they were ages ago, but when I asked at the library I was told, rather scathingly, they were only for people on benefits, & did I have any proof of that. The disapproving tone & look I got when I said no, but after I insisted that I'd heard they were free, made me feel that I was considered a scrounger.Â
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