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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Despite consultation results that have rejected the proposal, the Council are proceeding with the road renaming. Today, they issued the following statement.

A legal order issued on 7 December will set the renaming process in motion after Haringey Council’s Corporate Committee voted to change the name of Black Boy Lane to La Rose Lane. The name change will happen officially on 23 January 2023.

It doesn't do much for one's faith in the due process of the council. If they were going to do it anyway, why tease the local population with a meaningless consultation?

The item came to committee on 15 Sept, but the above statement has only just been issued. The relevant part of the agenda reports pack is attached below. The previous reports pack from 2021 is available via this HoL post

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£186,000 as reported in the Daily Mail... [link]

The Mail are likely to inflate the figure if anything, so it is very unlikely to be more than £186k. I wonder why people are saying it will cost £500k?

So £500k is the unbudgeted estimate of one HoL user...

So what's YOUR estimate ?

I don't pretend to know how much this would cost, I'm just a guy posting on an internet forum, same as everyone else who is giving their opinions on the cost of this project. 

I only asked where the £500k figure came from because I was curious and it seemed to have been plucked out of thin air, yet everyone was quoting it as if it was true. 

Jon.  The figure seems to have popped up in this post earlier in the thread.  Perhaps that person could share how they arrived at it.

Sorry, you’ve lost me there Livi.  I was replying to Jon rather than John.

Jon — My memory is that, in the council’s online report of the original committee discussion (in 2021), officers gave an estimate of £300,000 for the renaming. I can’t now find the reference,  but if you look at the previous, very long, HoL thread on this subject, I think you may find a link to it. I don’t know why it might now be £500,000, but perhaps that could be an informed update?

All linked threads can be accessed via the tag underneath the original post above. 

Following the renaming of Black Boy Lane I would have thought any signage to same would have to indicate: "Formerly known as"- Black Boy Lane?

One would imagine that such a definition would have to remain in place for quite a considerable period of time; maybe several years to avoid confusion and misinterpretation of the location?
If this is the case then surely it seriously conflicts the original reason for the illogical & financially disastrous name change??

Can I please recommend that reading the report (link above) might be a good place to find some answers to FAQs. If they aren't there the free website What Do they Know is often an effective way to pose questions and - crucially - share the answers through Freedom of information (F.O.I.) requests.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/

N.B.  If you get an answer from Haringey, in the past the Council tried to scare people by automatically  including a paragraph which claims that the answers are confidential and may not be shared. This was untrue. It was verging on a lie presumably hoped to chill public discussion.

In my view, such a practice almost certainly negates the whole point of the Seven Nolan Principles of public life.

Officers and Members rarely reply to letters/emails, not even an acknowledgment.

 I wrote to Cllrs about the cost of the scheme and other matters related to the name change of Black Boy Lane, I am still waiting for a response to my email of 14th October and at least 7 other emails going back to 2020. 

I then met with one of St Ann’s Cllrs who told me they didn’t know what the cost the road name change would be.  

I said £186k had been mooted as the cost of the road name change and the Cllr suggested that £186k was a drop in the ocean of LBH’s overall budget and because it was coming from the Corporate budget all is fine.

Based on past engagement with the Council, I hope to limit my dealings with them but fear that their inability to plan properly or communicate effectively that will be the case. I have don’t have any confidence that the transition from Black Boy Lane to La Rose Lane will be a smooth one.

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