Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Woodberry Grove closed at Seven Sisters Rd junction
Closed to vehicles at all times (save emergency and service vehicles). ANPR-enforced. Open to cyclists. This is the section between Green Lanes and Seven Sisters Rd, a notorious rat-run, and passing Skinners' Academy - it is also now a School Street with further access restrictions during pupils arrival and departure hours. The section south of Seven Sisters Rd is so far unaffected.
More detail here: https://rebuildingagreenerhackney.commonplace.is/proposals/woodberr...
John McMullan, break open the champagne!
Tags for Forum Posts: LTN, low traffic neighbourhoods, traffic, woodberry grove
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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My reading of the situation is that there will be a physical width-reducing barrier at the junction with Seven Sisters. It will be impossible for general traffic to enter at either end of the road and exit at the other at all times. Residents will have free access via Green Lanes and access from SS Road for emergency, waste collection vehicles and the like will still be possible from SS Road through the reduced width barriers. Restrictions will be reinforced at the SS Road end with an ANPR camera.
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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Yesterday I saw permanent 'ANPR camera' road signs at the end of Woodberry Grove that faces onto Seven Sisters Rd (was driving so no pictures). Also box planters to narrow the road, plus temporary barriers as a full block and as a visual marker - 'things have changed recently'.
Looking at the Manor House TfL jamcam yesterday I noticed a large lorry reversing out of Woodberry Grove onto Green Lanes, with a Met Police van in attendance. I suppose that will be repeated until sat-navs are updated.
It's no loss - even before this I'd avoided Woodberry Grove in either direction - narrow, few passing spaces. Aversion therapy location too - aggressive driver trying to make me reverse unsafely fast by crowding me.
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Also it only seems to be during School drop-off/pick up times.
8.30 to 9.30am and 3-4pm
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From the Hackney Council page linked to in the original post (my emphasis):
General motor vehicle traffic will not be permitted to pass through the traffic filter, from either direction, at any time of the day.
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Permalink Reply by Robert Pike on
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Now all we need is for someone to make a pedestrian link over the New River at Katherine Close to link to the Haringey side, and then a connection through potential sites either side of the railway line. Finally we would have a really good north-south pedestrian/ cycle link.
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That’s fine as long as they keep cycle traffic off the New River Path. Most cyclists are not into slow-mode travel. It’s important to keep some spaces like paths and certain linear ways as pedestrian only.
Where would you see it heading north of the river?
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The northbank by Eade Road has loads of room. I would love to see a link to Eade Road that can link up with any potential redevelopment on Omega Works that could then allow a link under the railway to the St Anns redevelopment.
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Haringey Planning is organising an online Teams meeting to consult on plans for the Omega Works development - please DM if you'd like details.
A north-south connection across the New River is something we're keen to look at. The Berkeley Homes / UK Power Networks electricity tunnel site on Linkway is likely to be the key in that respect - a New River crossing would connect their future developments on that site and on the other side at Rowley Gardens.
It would require an upgrade to the New River path between Green Lanes and Seven Sisters (which currently sees very little footfall and is a mudbath for much of the year) for the benefit of cyclists and pedestrians alike.
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Amazing. I will DM.
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Opening any part of the New River Path to cycle traffic would be a retrograde step. This part of the path isn't well used because, as member 'Hermitage New River Residents' says, it's a mud bath for much of the year. The solution is to improve the path for pedestrians, not to turn it into a cycle highway.
Although this is Thames Water land, it is just inside Hackney so the key influencer of its future would be Hackney council, though I dare say that Haringey will get a look-in too, as no doubt will the Berkley Group. I hope they can all be prevailed upon to keep it free of any sort of vehicular traffic. We need some spaces that are just for pedestrians.
Haringey apparently understand this. I hope that this understanding is firmly enough embedded to save this part of a fast-dwindling resource.
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Actually Hugh my interest is not to take a cycle path along the New River. In looking at the bigger north-south linkages you could get a route from Bruce Castle Park to Clissold through a number of green spaces, LTNs and new development sites. The idea of such a greenway route would be much better than the current hit and miss CS1 route or Green Lanes options. The barrier is just the New River. Lots of space within the fence on the north bank alongside Eade Road that could allow a crossing of the River.
Currently Green Lanes has a narrow segregated cycle way along the Finsbury Park stretch. Its not the most friendly of routes.
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Fully supportive of a river crossing, but not of taking away any green space for any sort of traffic. The green space we have left in London should be for plants, people and other animals. Vehicles of all sorts belong on roads.
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