Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Sale of The Laurels and other GP surgeries to US company
Anybody know anything about this?
Sale of The Laurels and other GP surgeries to Centene - sale of GP practices on 49 sites in London, with 500,000 patients, including the Laurels in St Ann’s (Haringey) to the US health insurance company Centene, via its UK subsidiary Operose.
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Permalink Reply by Karl on
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I think people's main concerns are that (1) "more efficiently" means using cheaper, less skilled staff (2) that companies' profitability motives will mean closing down services that the owners deem don't turn enough profit but which are still needed by patients, and (3) that personal health data may not be as safe in the hands of a large US company.
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Permalink Reply by kotkas on
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I am slightly concerned with any US business being painted as some force of evil. The US has some of the best pharma companies and health institutions in the world - Kaiser Permanente, Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic etc. There has to be something from the experience in the US that can be applied to the NHS and make it fitter for the future. It's just so tiresome to read comments of individuals who get all touchy about the NHS when the system is creaking at the seams and the real reason is that people are living longer, have terrible lifestyles (recent headlines about obesity are really sobering) and are putting pressure on a system that's not designed for this sort of strain.
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Yes, increased demand for healthcare is a challenge to any nationalised healthcare system but I'm not sure the US experience is one to emulate, given that it is vastly more expensive in terms of spend per capita than that of any other country in the world and yet for all that spending is among the lowest ranking of high income countries in terms of health outcomes. And one in which a large chunk of the population is unable to access any routine healthcare at all and sometimes not even emergency care. And a system that enables corruption and greed such as in this recent case, hardly a one-off either, that is far less likely in the NHS as was:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/former-chesapeake-obgyn-senten...
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Nobody is suggesting that the UK is better off with an US healthcare system, or that the US healthcare system is a good way to provide healthcare. The point is that they have great institutions from which the NHS (and other healthcare providers) can learn from, so FDI is not a bad thing.
The point I made earlier is that it's absurd to believe that having an US company invest in UK healthcare trusts will lead to an US-based NATIONAL system which is fundamentally insurance funded.
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Permalink Reply by Graham Charnock on
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None of this was what Nye Bevin had in mind when he dreamt up a 'National' health service. What he had in mind was something which would be free at the point of delivery, and free from the incentive of any profit motive, and would socially benefit the underprivileged. It would be paid for by taxation, not investors in search of a profit. But, hey, times change...
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I also doubt if Nye Bevan counted on the NHS becoming a magnet for international health tourism.
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Permalink Reply by HoL Site Admin on
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It is understandable that people get worked up about issue relating to the health service. But please keep comments in line with house rules. Some comments which were rude to other posters have been deleted. Any further comments in a similar vein will also be deleted.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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A piece about this in the Islington Tribune today- islingtontribune.com/article/judges-set-to-rule-on-nhs-campaigners-...
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This is a good article to get some context ..
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/26/nhs-gp-practice-ope...
The letter written to Matt Hancock is well worth a read too. I've been trying to find podcasts and panel discussions on the subject but have come up empty. It would be great to have some more perspectives on the issue (backed by evidence, of course) so if anyone has a link to share please post them. Ta
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