Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
The Campaign Against The Proliferation of Betting Shops
Dear all,
Late last year, members from this forum wrote to me regarding your concerns about the problems of betting shop clustering.
I have responded to it by starting a campaign that you can find here - http://www.davidlammy.co.uk/No_More_Gambling_With_Our_Community.
I have FOI'd Haringey council to find all of the betting shops in my Tottenham Constituency (37!), and I have mapped them here - http://www.davidlammy.co.uk/No_More_Gambling_With_Our_Community#Map
You can sign the petition and read the letter of support I have written: http://www.davidlammy.co.uk/No_More_Gambling_With_Our_Community#Pet...
I will write to the Secretary of State when I have collected enough signatures to hand to him to demonstrate the level of opposition to further gambling establishments in my constituency and Harringay in particular.
The campaign is far from over, and I'll be sure to keep members of this forum updated with any further action.
All the best,
David
P.S. I am running a further campaign against Boris' fare increases, please have a look if you're interested: http://www.davidlammy.co.uk/The_Campaign_Against_Fare_Increases
Late last year, members from this forum wrote to me regarding your concerns about the problems of betting shop clustering.
I have responded to it by starting a campaign that you can find here - http://www.davidlammy.co.uk/No_More_Gambling_With_Our_Community.
I have FOI'd Haringey council to find all of the betting shops in my Tottenham Constituency (37!), and I have mapped them here - http://www.davidlammy.co.uk/No_More_Gambling_With_Our_Community#Map
You can sign the petition and read the letter of support I have written: http://www.davidlammy.co.uk/No_More_Gambling_With_Our_Community#Pet...
I will write to the Secretary of State when I have collected enough signatures to hand to him to demonstrate the level of opposition to further gambling establishments in my constituency and Harringay in particular.
The campaign is far from over, and I'll be sure to keep members of this forum updated with any further action.
All the best,
David
P.S. I am running a further campaign against Boris' fare increases, please have a look if you're interested: http://www.davidlammy.co.uk/The_Campaign_Against_Fare_Increases
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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If you are interested in pursuing the issues further, this post has an overview and links to many of the earlier debates on HOL on betting shops in the area.
Personally, I have 4 within 100 yards of the end of my road. Whichever direction I go, I can see them. One sits at the end of my road and another is likely to open on the other corner just past the Post Office. A couple of shops on from that is a William Hills. On the corner across the road sits Ladbrokes. This is saturation of an area and is not good for the High Street.
As to trouble, much of happens inside the shops and is often caused by the punters losing on Fixed Odds Betting Terminals. These punters are also responsible for low level but unwelcome anti-social behaviour such as littering and noise. There have been armed robberies of betting shops here and on Tottenham High Road, one at 8 in the morning.
That said, when there were a couple of betting shops on the strip between St Ann's and the bridge, there was really no problem-all part of GL's rich tapestry but NINE is really too much of a good thing, wouldn't you agree Paul?
If you don't, and there are some members who quite vigorously feel we should leave well alone and let the gambling industry walk all over British high streets, then the easy option is to do nothing and saturation will happen. All the laws are on the side of the gambling industry- handed to them in the Gambling Act mentioned above.
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Permalink Reply by easysteve on
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I so agree with you Paul. I am also a resident of Green Lanes. Gambling is not illegal as is not Kebab shops (of which there are loads). I would rather see the premises occupied rather than left to fall into a state of dis-repair. I do not see a major threat to children from gamblers, nor indeed do they urinate or vomit on the streets, they never appear to be snorting class A's or indulging in violent activities. I have noticed on occasion that they leave nut and seed shells on the pavement, but what the hell street cleaners would rather sweep up these shells than blood and vomit. I really think that if someone wants to put 50p each way on the 3.30 at Haydock Park it is entirely up to them.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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They're not though, they could do that on the internets. They're using the fixed odds betting machines. Losing their money to their addiction and committing crimes inside the shop.
Are we really so privelidged as to have nine kebab shops on Green Lanes? Yum.
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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on
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Actually they do vomit and urinate. I have seen customers from metro bet do both on warham road. They also leave their beer cans on the window sill outside metro bet on warham road before entering the place. Sorry mate but you are wrong.
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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I of course traverse the Green Lane very frequently
Which of the Green Lanes would that be, Paul?
And could you drop that 'Gay neologism. Just setting you straight.
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Permalink Reply by Chris Ford on
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Well said David!
Local opposition to the number of betting shops along Green Lanes isn't a new thing. Why is it only now, after yet another shop has opened, that our MP is putting his weight behind a petition??
Well I suppose it is election year...
Interesting to hear about Mr Lammy's involvement in the 2005 Gambling Act though, thanks David, maybe he'd like to explain that to us here??
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He has tended to vote the way the whips want him to which I'm certainly not going to hold against him. Nobody (well maybe someone) saw this as a consequence of the Gambling Act. Weren't we all worried about "super casinos" in Manchester?
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Permalink Reply by PeterPiper on
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Once upon a time, MPs were elected to represent the views of their constituents, not slavisly do the whips' bidding.
At the time the Act was being debated, many people forsaw the consequences, not least the Guardian and the Daily Mail, who both ran campaigns against it.
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Nice to see Mr Lammy doing something on his OLD stomping ground , Must Be Wanting Votes !!!
Or is it he is worried about his election odds.
Dead Man Walking !!!
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David Lammy = the Bookies' favourite
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Permalink Reply by Sophie Smith on
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With a 2010 majority of over 13000, I doubt he's worried about election odds!
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As an ex-gambler whose life was nearly ruined -no, scrub that -was ruined, I'd be happy if I never saw another one of those places again.
it's been 25 years since I last gambled but it is true to say that the more gambling shops that appear, the more I find myself thinking about it: however, it is also true to say I'm not tempted.
What does concern me is that already seasoned gamblers are surely under even more pressure with so many of those dreadful places around and that somehow it validates their addiction and reassures them that it's 'ok' to spend the second mortgage on the horses (I know of five men who've done this during my time at GA).
The effect it has on the young and displaced or alientated in some way is also monumental. Six of these places is a scandal. One per square mile is enough: trust me -gamblers would walk on fire to place their bets -by making it so easy for them it's only fuelling the fire of their destruction.
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