Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Borough Parks
PR Facebook Team, keep putting up Post reminding users of Boroughs Parks to take home their Rubbish
Reporting that it is cost £500,000 to Clear
Not aware of Any of the Borough's Parks having in house Staff ?
Aware they use Mobile Teams
Not aware of them taking on any more Staff in recent Times
Joke is that many of the Few Bins in parks get people walking through, dumping carrier bags of domestic rubbish
Plus most Parks are not cleared on a daily basis
Plus many people using the Parks live in Rooms and Flats and not always viable to take waste home, especially if they have screaming kids in tow
I have added the Comment on their Post, what is the Boroughs Residents and Traders paying High local Taxes, if not for Our Green Spaces
Well aware from Experience in Finsbury Park that you can not put larger bins by entrances. As outsiders will fill them before you leave the area
Also wonder how much of the rubbish is recycled ?
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Permalink Reply by maladyboy on
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They said bin it or take it home. You conveniently left out the bin it part. I do not see anything wrong with this request. Everyone, including those with children, can take their rubbish home or bin it, whether they live in a flat, room, house, castle... It's a basic thing to teach kids too. I just don't get these posts where you do nothing else but complain on this website. Paying taxes doesn't mean being a slob and leaving your rubbish in the park. Good grief I thought that was common sense.
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Permalink Reply by Bob Ruggles on
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My issue where does cost come from ? Have they Contracted out Park Cleansing
In pictures much seems to be take Away cartons. Years ago at Finsbury park. We use to fill 3,- 4 Skips per week from the park. Events had there own contract cleaners on site. . Park rubbish went out in skips at major depots which then went to Edmonton incinerator
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It's the cost that is the issue - if you have experience of estates charges with Homes for Haringey, its the same exorbitant charges for not much at all. I'm sure you could pay a few people 30k a year to drive around to all the parks cleaning non stop and get millions of applications - and still not spend 500k
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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It’s our rubbish, why shouldn’t we be asked to take it home if the bins are full? And why isn’t it viable for people who live in rooms and flats to dispose of their rubbish when they get home? Do they normally just dump their household waste in the middle of the floor and complain that someone should come and take it away? Putting the onus on the council for stuff like this is akin to expecting them to wipe our noses when they run.
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What money? The amount English local authorities have to spend has decreased on average by 21% in the past decade. In this year alone (and this was before Covid and the massive hit on business rates income) Haringey has to find £24 million in savings.
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Parking Fines has to go to Road / Cycle lanes etc
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It can only be used on transport and highways
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Haringey has Not had Park Keepers for over 40 years , aware as was one of the last ones
Also same time the Dog Patrols Stopped
They was never allowed to issue any form of Penalties
They have Gardiners / What ever Parks need them to do. Not aware they have increased numbers as still see & speak to several around
Council has a policy of outsourcing Council Duties. Which often means paying more for Services, which used to be carried out by people that used to mostly live in Borough
Aware Central Government has reduced Central Funding
But most effected Borough's have far more income coming in from increased Rates and charges
From increase properties and growth in HMO's and past houses being converted to flats
Plus have reduced many past managed Council Services. Yet Wage Bill continues to rise as workers decrease
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Local authorities are not allowed to make a profit. Income has to be either to cover cost or can only be used on ring fenced spending (parking fines can only be used used on specific spendI got for instance) Littering fines are minute right across the country as it is incredibly difficult to prove that bit of litter X was internationally dropped by Y. If it was profitable, companies like Veolia would be bidding for contracts all over the country. They’re not.
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It works where there is an indentifier (for example a vehicle registration or a tenancy agreement) and a clear breach (the vehicle on a double yellow or noise from a property) and the evidence threshold is met. The problem with littering is that the person, even if caught in the act, can simply walk away and/or refuse to give their name and address. The enforcement officer can of course produce video evidence but then that has to be matched to one of several million people in London. In a park it’s unlikely that they will drop litter bearing personal indentifiers such as bank statements
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Parking Permits and Road Parking tickets are Ringfenced for Contributions to Highway Issues
Estate Parking would go to Housing
Reports of Parking Charges at Alexandra Palace, reported to be going to Palace Running Costs
Not forgetting as All Services are Contracted out to Contractors. A good slice of income goes to operating Companies
A recent report stated that Highway Parking had made a £11 Million profit
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