Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Baldwin’s butchers employees NOT fly tipping
Further investigations showed that this shop was not fly-tipping Read page 2 below
Caught these 2 chancers working at Baldwin’s fly tipping, in case anyone is wondering where the massive mattress and bed base at the bottom of Mattison have come from. They were dragging the stuff out from the flat next to the butchers. Utterly shameless, in broad daylight. I used to shop a fair bit at Baldwin’s and thought they were a real asset to our high street but I’ll be taking my business elsewhere. I have written to the council who I hope will take swift and decisive action.
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Permalink Reply by kotkas on
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Hi - I am sorry, but this is inconsistent with what I saw on Saturday.
More specifically - the individuals in question actually taking the mattresses out of the doorway by the shop, and depositing them just outside. Then going back in the store. An hour later they were further upstream. I need to add that there were no mattresses earlier in the morning anywhere near the store when I went running. It’s been my experience that fly tipping happens in the small hours so I find it implausible that they were dumped mid morning in front of the store.
In that respect it has to be my word against the proprietor of Baldwin’s. I have nothing against the shop. In fact I really enjoy their product and I was quite upset to see this because I do think they are a great asset to our high street. I won’t be surprised if they had already been contacted by the council and have the alibi in question. But I don’t want to speculate. I fact - I’d be very happy being wrong. Because I want to shop there - with a clear consciousness.
That doesn’t change what I saw, in addition to what appeared to be a large amount of household waste in the yard behind the store.
Hugh - given the divisive nature of the issue I’d be inclined to set this to not/may be or deleting the thread altogether. The council is investigating alongside Veolia and there are a number of activities underway that will determine what goes on on the corner...
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Koktas, on the basis of ‘innocent till’ and given what Andy said to Justin, I’m comfortable with leaving things as they are for now. In the event we have any further evidence one way or the other, perhaps we can revisit it then
Are we even sure that Baldwin’s own the flat above?
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I don’t know who owns it. The council will look into the whole thing and will investigate whether that’s the case. Once again - Id be happier if I were wrong... but I know what I saw and it was the Baldwin’s staff putting stuff out on the street.
On a semi related note - looks like Google Maps have immortalised whoever happened to be dumping a mattress on that spot at another time. What are the odds?? Not sure whether I should laugh or cry...
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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Funny you should say that about rubbish at the back. I did not know this until Andy too me out the back and showed me, but the gates you see to the left of the wall leads not into a back yard not solely owned by Baldwins but is a small area that access the back of Baldwins the Charity Shop (and another shop I think) but also some mews buildings that have been converted into dwellings (however legitimate these are). Andy was bemoaning the fact that these dwellings are constantly dumping stuff outside in this yard and on the street. I don't know if this is the source of the problem... It certainly looked to be a squalid spot when i saw it.
I don't want to denigrate what you have said and seen here Kotkas, but equally I want to be able to take what Andy told me at face value. In fairness (if his version is correct) he did not solve the problem, mealy moved it elsewhere, so there is an element of education here as to how to deal with things like this appropriately. Hopefully I helped a little, but I will flag this with Dave Shipp who looks after this area for Haringey and it might help if he has a word with Andy and others on our high street.
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Thanks, Justin. As you know, beyond an email, I wasn’t in a position to check this story out.
As I said in my original (HOL Admin) reply, an innocent explanation.
I’ve edited the title and the url, but in my experience it’s better to leave the thread. Otherwise people may wonder at its disappearance.
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