Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Rogue Landlord and useless Council
I am looking for a new place in the area, not a big one, just for one person as the current place is just a hell hole with Landlord/property management and Council all claiming they have done what they can do. Wooden uninsulated floor 4x5 m overhead and instead of 1 person 2 adult +toddler+baby. The house has many crack one wonders about the safety in the longer run. They move their furniture on a naked floor several times a day mostly from midday until well past 1 am everyday. On top of it little toddler now running around as if she is on a bouncing castle and baby more and more crying in addition to the toddler falling, crying and having regular tantrums. Of course children are children, but a shared property is not the right place. They have no room to sleep at normal bed times.
Landlord most of the time ignoring me.
Managing company is only confirming they did what they could do (more than a year after the man brought his partner and then baby)
At Haringay council the noise department is only stalling and court approved recording devices have a waiting list of 6 months and had several visits from their staff at night, but they have no power. The recently in the ceiling re-appearing cracks prove that this is an old problem regularly painted over (there are many more in the rest of the house)
I am told nothing when Haringay Council is re-locating neighbours.
This is the short version of the nightmare I am going through.
Does anybody know a contact name at social services I could contact to make clear to them what their delay does to me?
I really are desperately to get out of this hell hole.
Any information who is in charge of social services dealing with families who should be evicted but the Council wants to re-locate would be much appreciated.
Rg
Elisabeth
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Permalink Reply by Elisabeth von Glasenapp on
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Thank you very much, after more then 8 months despair does not come close to this endless nightmare.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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"hell hole" <- caused by a toddler and a baby. I think you're exaggerating a bit.
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I can almost guarantee you that the parents are NOT enjoying the noise caused by their toddler and baby either.
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Permalink Reply by PaulG on
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Well this one's easy to deal with:
(1) That's irrelevant
(2) They (presumably) chose to have a toddler
(3) The noise downstairs is not the same as the noise upstairs because of the impact of the children on the floor
(4) You've ignored the furniture moving which goes on until 1 am...
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They "chose" not to have a toddler!!!!! Ha ha ha. If I'd had a choice, my first child would have "started" from age 6.
Look, I doubt they're having much fun in a one bedroom flat under these circumstances and Elisabeth is having a party on Friday night where we can all hear for ourselves.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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John you're not being at all sympathetic. I would hate to be in Elisabeth's position. It's more than just noise. I imagine that it feels like a complete invasion of privacy when this happens. I am quite sure that is is very stressful.
Our own family's noise may not be what we want but it is 'our' noise and at least we can feel that its something we have some control over and it's not being imposed on us by a stranger.
LIfe's probably tough for the family right now too, but that doesn't make things any more tolerable for Elisabeth.
Elisabeth, for what it's worth you have have my sympathy.
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Thank you !
to add the post above: I tried for six months to reason with them but quite a few reactions made me feel they were not really interested in solving the it. She was asking me about finding a job and they claimed they were looking for another place. However, they didn't want to get a carpet (there are very cheap ones available) they didn't want to see if they could use the room next to their's which was empty for several months to use it as a bedroom for the toddler at the time which would also had helped to spread their furniture and they could have put the child to bed at more normal hours. So over time one couldn't help but thinking they wanted to make matters worse so that they could get a new place. My neighbour who had his own nightmare with my predecessor and his neighbour overhead has given me some support but he often is away and not directly effected anymore. It's as much the owner's fault as the tenants.
Right now they are back and the whole furniture re-arrangement starts again
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I am not blaming the children, but their parents and in combination with the house it is hell. You are invited to stay an afternoon and evening
. It's like somebody is hitting you on the head for long periods of time and again and again. This house should not house a family, but they obviously rented 1 room for 1 person and then more people moved in. I have no other place to go so are trapped.
But to me it sounds that the toddler has problems given the number of tantrums she has seem well above average. And having a second child when you live in a single room without prospect for a more suitable place may allow the question why?
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A second child! My god, why on earth did they have a second child when the first one was such a wilful little nightmare? Perhaps they thought that the second one would be better? Perhaps they had a wee accident? Perhaps they're just trying to have a family together as best they can?
"It's like somebody is hitting you on the head for long periods of time and again and again" <- nope, someone hitting you on the head again and again will kill you or at the very least give you brain damage. You're exaggerating to assist in your point.
I have left a house because of the bomb like noise of skip trucks going over a speedhump early in the morning so I understand but you're demonising a family here.
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She has not complained about not being able to sleep. I am having sympathy but obviously with the wrong side of the argument...
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Of course I cannot sleep as the consequence! And that is driving me mad as sleep deprivation is torture and as the man is often getting up at 5 am in the morning that causes also some commotion as well, although not as bad as the nightly furniture rearrangements.
Just a summery for you:
A large room with a wooden not insulated floor.
4 very active people instead of the 1 the room was meant for 1.
A landlord who knew about the overcrowding and the poor state of the house for a long time without doing anything to improve the house and remove the people once he learnt about it and on top of it as far as I am told
Haringay Council allegedly wants to re-locate them but hasn't done it for months
AND nobody finds it necessary to inform me what is going to happen.
IF I had not spent money on some furniture and a clean mattress I would have been gone months ago, but I am stuck for the foreseeable future and as I work from home I need to have a save work space to work from within a week's time. So just putting everything into storage and working from an office is not an option.
I have no part in creating the situation I am in, but l am the one going through hell every day and night.
So stop defending the indefensible.
Rg
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Permalink Reply by Nick on
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What would you have the landlord do - kick them out onto the street? And social services - really? It's hardly likely that they are in such small accommodation by choice.
Sorry but I agree with John - you sound very unsympathetic to their situation. If you find it so disagreeable wouldn't it be easier for you to move?
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