Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
ZAC votes to leave (and so does Boris).
London mayoral elections are on May 5th. Zac Goldsmith has come out for voting to leave the EU. Sadiq Khan has decided he'd like to see the UK stay within the EU. A clear dividing line between these two candidates.
With the EU vote the following month this issue could end up being the deciding factor between the two candidates. Difficult to say how Londoners feel about the EU but probably more than anywhere else within the UK (apart from Scotland) the majority of the city's inhabitants are for staying within the European Union.
If this is the case then Sadiq is our next mayor ... unless voters (who bother to turn up at their polling station) think other issues will loom larger in their minds as they enter the polling booths.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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I don't know if the EU in/out will be a deciding factor when people vote in the Mayoral elections Matt. People tend to stick to party affiliations and I'm not sure if wavering voters will let the intention on Europe of the two main candidates push them one way or the other. I think the Heathrow/Gatwick/fares freeze/housing bits of the manifestos will have more impact
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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As far as I'm aware both candidates are against the proposed Heathrow expansion so not a deciding factor between the two. Everyone understands the need for more housing, just depends on what type Zac & Sadiq can realistically wish for, as developers seem to currently decide more than the authorities what goes in. Will Zac continue the Borris towers trend? Probably. Will Sadiq be able to overturn whose dozens of tower developments already signed over? Doubt it. I'm interested to know what Sadiq might be able to realistically achieve with housing in the capital under mayoral powers, such as they are.
One thing is for sure, the EU question will rear it's ugly head all the way to the finish line.
Update; with current mayor Boris Johnson now announcing he's on the leave campaign this issue is for sure going to figure significantly in the mayoral elections.
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Permalink Reply by michaelw on
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Worth noting that EU citizens from outside the UK who are living in London are eligible to vote in the mayoral election (they can't vote in the referendum or in a General Election unless they become UK citizens, or if they are Irish).
Given that the UK leaving the EU threatens their livelihoods, it would be rather surprising if they gave Zac their votes in the Mayoral elections, even if the two issues are not directly linked. I'm not sure how many people this is, but it will be multiple hundreds of thousands.
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Yes was thinking this as well. But we may on the other side of the EU debate see traditional Labour supporters going with Zac because of his EU stance. I think the EU question shakes up so called party loyalties, is my general point.
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Since Sadiq and Zac will both welcome the Garden Bridge, and also the Tel Aviv festival, which is an attempt to whitewash Israel and try to ignore its criminal treatment of Palestinians, I'll be voting Green; Sian Berry has far more progressive policies on these issues and more. Personally while I have problems with the EU from a left wing perspective, I'm not convinced that pulling out in the hope that the EU will fall apart and be put back together in a more democratic way is pragmatic; we could just end up on the outside and still have to pay and obey witout any input.
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Not lovin' the Garden Bridge idea either, especially as it'll be closed for a number of days of each year for 'private parties'
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Permalink Reply by Justin Hinchcliffe on
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There are 1m EU nationals living in London, which is already a cosmopolitan and progressive city. Through a mixture of arrogance and stupidity, he has just lost the Mayoralty. I am now an "undecided". Boris Johnson is has put his own naked ambitions to the lead the Party above the country's interests. Frankly, London deserves better.
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Zac's move is odd. You'd think a good number, maybe the majority of Londoners, would get the idea of interconnectedness with our fellow European neighbours. As you say Zac's EU decision appears to give Sadiq the Mayoralty.
Also, from 1998 to 2007 he worked as editor of The Ecologist magazine, where he should therefore know most environmental legislation came via EU directives, much of it useful and probably most of it UK governments would not have brought in themselves. He of all people should get why the EU can work.
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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on
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Boris has always been in the pocket of the Bankers.. They see leaving the EU as a licence to make even more money and dole out even higher bonuses.. Another good reason for voting to stay in.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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We all see leaving the EU as a licence to make more money, with less red tape and fewer ridiculous restrictions on what we can and can't do.
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Anyone who is an employee (y'know, the main mechanism by which the money is made) should be very wary of this. I reckon within 2 years of leaving the EU we will start to see full time contracts with holiday entitlements similar to the US (where 14 days is a good deal). 10 years after, 0 to 14 will be the new normal.
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That's a very good point. Generally speaking the politicians of this country seem very keen to roll back employment conditions to more that of the US (practically none), much like what are seen at Sports Direct. Opt out of the EU and there is a fair chance the erosion of current employment rights will accelerate.
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