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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

On a quick trot down to Turnpike Lane I thought again how pleasant it is to see people out on the street. Click each picture for a clearer version.


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So hopefully the current traffic survey will overcome the piecemeal, listening to whoever shouts loudest, approach the council has taken to traffic calming/control up to date.

Although the street wires (traffic counting things) were only on my road for a couple of weeks and then disappeared. I've also noticed another couple are broken - no longer attached to the boxes chained to lampposts.

Yes, I very much hope so Julie. I think the traffic measurement was just run over a couple of weeks.

Yes sorry my mistake, I've just been reading the traffic survey thread and saw that. I'd read somewhere about the survey happening 3 months before WR closure and 3 months after so I think this is why I'd assumed the road counts would be still be happening.

There's just too much for us all to take in right now.

That's what I understood John. Maybe phase two will happen after traffic settles down a bit.

JulieB, sorry

I'm pretty sure they planned the 2nd phase for when the schools were open. Beware everyone that the schools go back on Monday so expect another peak of misery on the roads....

I agree, traffic levels on Salisbury Road are ridiculous for a residential strip and the quality of living with that constant traffic queue must be horrible. Additionally much forward traffic then simply nips across Green Lanes and up Warham Road to Wightman Road, approx 18,000 vehicles per day to be precise. That junction has to be revised.

Henry campaigned at length approx 10 years ago to make the St Anne’s Road junction with Green Lanes two way which would divert traffic away from Salisbury Road and give buses more turning space thereby avoiding the hold up to north driving traffic when south driving buses swing around that Salisbury Road/Green Lanes junction. Those turning buses are also a hazard for pedestrians crossing Green Lanes despite the traffic lights. I also feel very strongly that Warham Road should not be part of an unofficial one-way system from St Anne's Road to Wightman Road, the pollution is horrific and house shaking at the top of the house unbearable when lorries thunder over the speed humps. I know and agree that traffic solutions need to work across the full Harringay area but worry that easy and political options will be taken. There Justin I've added my bit and shown my colours!! Thanks again to all the Traffic sub-committee and everyone who is posting such thoughtful ideas and comments. I will continue to monitor all this discussion and add my voice. (One final thing -  I feel that if the Ladder, Wightman Road and Salisbury Road stand together and lobby then we must be a match for the GL traders lobby. The changes Ruben identifies need to happen to complete GL regeneration above constant traffic jams!! Ruben said: remove cycle lane and move over to WR; no parking (double yellow/red lines) 24h/day; loading bays and meters to be kept only on the first bays of every ladder and gardens roads.

I  heard that the borough surveyor was living on one of the Gardens roads at the time of the closure - perhaps we just need one resident with the right position in local government.

Maddy, I think it may have a more to do with elected representatives living there at the time.

There were four St Ann's Labour Party members living in Warwick Gardens at the time. FOUR!!!

I hope all of those new Labour Party members are going to the meetings.

Hugh - I take your point about traffic finding a way north/south on roads to the east of Green Lanes as well as to the west; my previous post raised more of a question than offering a solution, because I have no idea how to balance out competing priorities and a huge amount of traffic in the area. On your specific suggestion, I think making Woodlands Park and Glenwood one-way in opposing directions might be impractical at the top end, as Glenwood doesn't intersect West Green Road (and Albany Close isn't a through route), which is where traffic would want to go to/from, but who knows? As for existing barriers, I'd assumed Harringay was blocked at the top to make sure the westbound St Ann's Road traffic that has to use it then has to enter Green Lanes via Colina Road, rather than going directly into Green Lanes at the Salisbury or heading straight on up to West Green Road. 

Not living on Woodlands Park, I don't know how busy it really gets at present (it's always quite quiet when I cross it), even though it's an obvious link between St Ann's and West Green, but it would no doubt be far worse if the Gardens barriers were removed and traffic could percolate from close to Green Lanes station right up to West Green (as I think I can remember was possible some 25 years or so ago). At the moment Woodlands Park has chicanes that presumably keep the largest vehicles out but no actual barriers. 

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