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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Hello, 

Don't get me wrong i shop locally all the time but what is everyones obsession with local shops? 

I dont understand everyone seems to be so for these local shops - don't get me wrong its not that i dislike them but just don't understand everyones obsession with them! 

If i go into a costa coffee i can order as much or as little as i like without feeling uncomfortable e.g just a coffee but in a local shop you are expected to order more or they get funny! 

when i go into a local shop i usually feel very uncomfortable - they stare at you as there is usually few people in the shop. 

chains and large shops are better regulated and you do not get ripped off.

can someone enlighten me?

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Are they the real thing, Michael?  Or clever fakes?  Or simply honest copies going under the label of Vintage Style French milk bottles?

If genuine originals I suspect you will be able to re-sell your bottle at a vast profit. It seems that beings from the Planet Zog have long used French milk bottles as a safe and appreciating capital investment.  They now buy the bottles off-world and leave them empty.

Now I'm really nervous Alan. I use it to hold kitchen sink implements

You should  be nervous, Michael. You're taking a huge risk actually using this scarce and precious object. When even modern copies are 25 quid for two, just imagine what an original might fetch.  Have you notified your insurance company?

There's a wider lesson here. In short, that nothing must ever be used. And certainly never thrown away. Everything should be kept in its original box and plastic wrapping. Preferably in Stephen's cellar in Berlin.

Because everything must be valued as a [potential] art object. And all art objects must be valued purely for their resale price. In other words, the maximum some museum curator or private collector might pay for it - and store in their own cellar.

In case this reads like sub-Marxist twaddle, take a look at a webpage from the National Gallery of Australia - the proud owner of one of Duchamp's bottle racks.

Though unfortunately not the original.  Because when Duchamp wrote from New York to his sister Suzanne in Paris - instructing her to write his name on the bottle rack and sell it as art - she'd cleared out the studio. Deciding it was junk and leaving it on the pavement together with a bicycle wheel. So Duchamp had to spend money buying more bottle racks to sign as limited editions.

I've just searched the one I have online and it's definitely not going to be used to hold a pan scrubbing brush anymore - it's going into my pension fund.

I have some 19th and early 20th German incl. Berlin, as well as U.S.A & Viennese ones in my basement, if you feel like adding to your collection Michael.

Oh yeah, as well as English 50s to 80s too !

According to one unreliable source, in the 1970's the French artist Marcel Duchamp may have taken a milk bottle from his bottle rack and used it as a urinal whenever he went to a home game at Arsenal's old stadium in Avenell Road.

That one would now be worth a bob or two.

Nah Alan. Duchamp definitely supported my home team of Sunderland as they are the original Dada joke

Is that how he was able to use a urinal and make it into a 'fountain ' ?

Lido have actually saved me money by suggesting a cheaper alternative to something I was going to buy.  I guess sometimes local shops are better because they are playing the long game - working hard to build relationships with dedicated customers, rather than always going for the quick buck. Plus deciding to open a small specialist shop often means the people there have a real passion and pride in what they do which tends to improve the service they offer.

 Not sure I understand the point about only feeling able to complain about poor products in large change.  If Blend or whoever served me a cold coffee I'd feel just as able to complain as in Starbucks - and rather suspect that they'd bend over backwards to rectify it in a way that Costa et al wouldn't feel the need to

Shop local and there's a chance they will pay their tax in this country. Hard to find such in a  multinational.

You've probably given the most compelling argument so far Pam

I used to claim income tax relief on my mortgage repayments ( because I could ) .

Am I a bad person ?

My wife, when working as a stage manager, used to get an allowance for theatrical makeup.

Is she ?

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