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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Lurking in the bushes at Fairland Park looking for litter (mercifully little of it), I spotted these plants. Can anyone ID them?

 

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Just possible the berries are Deadly Nightshade. If it is, it definitely shouldnt be in a playground :-(

http://www.thepoisongarden.co.uk/atoz/atropa_belladonna.htm

Top one is definately Acanthus Spinosus (Liz - very close relative of the one that is hanging in there in the Mattinson Road planter). More info here. They are great, though snails like them and once they are established they are almost impossible to get rid off.

I dont think the bottom one is deadly nightshade, the leaves are different. Viburnum? Anyone else?

First is acanthus - I think the spinosa (or something like that) rather than the mollis variety.

I think the second might be a variety of viburnum 

Ah, ok, our posts crossed Alison, but at least we agree! Liz I have the acanthus in my garden. I think you can grow them from seed - Alison?

I'm sure you could grow Acanthus from seed, but easiest to divide up an existing plant (or as Sally says get cuttings). I have it growing as a weed in my garden - I think I've dug it up and then another bit sprouts.

Does anyone know if the spiny leaved version is less attractive to snails than the other one? You'd think it would be, but the actual leaf is still pretty soft.

The snails like mine.
I'm not sure that I need to provide the snails of Harringay with any more food. Having just lost my lovingly nurtured cucumber plant to the b***ards during that very wet week, I'd like some kind of plant that makes them shrivel up and die. On the other hand its quite striking. Would I regret putting it in one of our street planters, maybe the one that gets the most punishment from passing flower vandals do you think?

I have a spiny leaved version and it hasn't been eaten..... yet.

My garden is full of toads but they don't seem to make any difference to the huge slug & snail population that i have eating their way through the garden.....

 

The second plants leaves resemble Hydrangea

Agree about first one, could the second be a Cornus (Dogwood?)

Good check for native species post on http://www.ispot.org.uk/. For garden plants http://www.shootgardening.co.uk/

I wondered about cornus too. It could be - this one is similar looking (but not nearly as good a picture as Liz's!).

 

(I love cornus, wish I had room to grow them!).

Thanks all.
Now I look at the leaves of no 1 I see the family resemblance to the acanthus in the Mattison planter which was munched rotten by snails but has recovered. Really lovely colours on it.
The leaves look right for viburnum although the berries are pale. There's a fair bit of it in the flower beds.

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