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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Hi There,

I am all up for keeping independant businesses going (especially pubs) but I've noticed as of today the West Green Pub on West Green Road has been boarded up and shut down. 

This is great news for the area as the pub was a complete dive and attracted some very dodgy characters, also drugs being used/sold openly in the street, people urinating on the pavement. 

Does anyone know if there are plans for it or is it going to be a metal clad beast for us to enjoy forever ?

Really hope this is the start of a huge tidy up of West Green Road. Its in a disgusting state and has been neglected for decades. Shame on the local councillors for letting it get this bad.

Roll on regeneration !!! Still yet to see anything valid in the area.

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"Still yet to see anything valid in the area".

We're not from these parts, are we Gav? You might find that your demand for immediate social cleansing finds little resonance beyond the really rather conservative confines of Haringey Online.

That'll be *Harringay* Online - if you're going to tar over 6000 people with the same brush at least get the name of the website right.

Very unfair comment. West Green Road has a very low-income demographic, including me,  with all that comes with.  That pub has been there for years, way before I moved into the area in 1985. I've never heard of any problems and I'm five minutes from it.  

I never went there as it was not my kind of place, but it was for many people and it's a pity it's gone. 

You will be pleased to hear a Costa coffee shop is opening at the bottom of West Green Road, near Seven Sisters station. 

Just a tidy up is what I suggested, drunken behaviour, urinating in the street and drug selling is what needs sorting out and I have witnessed that for years.

You must admit the West Green Road looks like a tip ? This is the plan I support which very much involves local community. 

http://www.haringey.gov.uk/west-green-road-improvements-summary.pdf

Join the modern world !! Create a nice place for our children

What do you mean by modern world?

You must admit that the Council and Landlords of West Green Road have done nothing to update or even maintain the buildings/shop fronts. Except maybe Pennywise and the Travel Agents who have had new signage made up. 

We all have a right to live in a clean/safe place to walk in and enjoy, we pay council tax for this exact reason. I'm not suggesting a huge change or social gentrification, just a lick of paint !

Who cares where I'm from, I don't even think about where you're from or how much you earn. However I do notice you urinating in the street, leaving smashed bottles on the pavement or offering me drugs.

The earning power of residents impacts greatly on an area. When I first moved here there was a fairly large middle class population, then the riots happened and they left in droves. 

I guess I'm happier in an area that stays within the comfort zone of people who will live here consistently than in an area which goes up and down depending on when more affluent people move in and out. 

I can take the odd urinater, smashed bottle or drug dealer. None of these things has a detrimental affect on the life of most of the residents. We just want a place we can afford to live and decent schools. Which Haringey has.

Is it not ok to aspire to have an area  affordable to live, with decent schools and get rid of the drug dealers, street urinators, leering men and rubbish too?  I'm pretty sure most locals- whether on low or middle or high incomes - aren't in favour of the drug pushers and piles of rubbish.

Who says I don't aspire to such things? I'm speaking of what I know, not what I would like. 

I'm a bit confused. Is your point that we should keep our local street urinators etc because they make the area less pleasant, which keeps it cheaper to live here?

You are probably right, but I would still prefer that the side roads I have to walk down to get to my local shopping street didn't smell of p*ss

We've had similar sentiments expressed recently - " the beautification of Green Lanes will put Harringay rents up "

No that is not my point. How you came to that conclusion is quite baffling to me.

My point very clearly was that it is important for people such as myself to have an affordable place to live. The long-term residents of WGR cope with the good and the bad on a long-term basis. We don't have the luxury of leaving an area if a riot gets to  close or the local schools are not up to a standard we would like. Those are facts. What we would like and area to be and what it is are very different. 

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