Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
The future of Wood Green: details of staffed sessions and workshop
A CONSULTATION ON OPTIONS FOR A LONG-TERM PLAN AND IDEAS FOR SHORT-TERM PROJECTS
Informed by the findings of previous consultation stages, options have been developed to deliver long-term improvements to Wood Green. We would like to invite you to have your say on these options and to give us your ideas for short-term projects as well. There are several ways to do this:
PUBLIC EXHIBITION, UNTIL SATURDAY 19 MARCH
Visit the staffed sessions and fill in the easy to use survey.
Staffed sessions - opening times
Tuesday 1 March | 11am-4pm
Thursday 3 March | 3-8pm
Saturday 5 March | 11am-4pm
Monday 7 March | 3-8pm
Wednesday 9 March | 9.30-2.30pm
Friday 11 March | 12-5pm
Tuesday 15 March | 12-5pm
Thursday 17 March | 9.30-2.30pm
Saturday 19 March | 11am-4pm
ONLINE SURVEY, UNTIL SUNDAY 20 MARCH
Join in and take the online survey, either at home or at the exhibition.
On the website www.haringey.gov.uk/woodgreen
Direct link to the online survey: goo.gl/forms/K9KTQfXM3m
PUBLIC WORKSHOP, THURSDAY 10 MARCH
Book and join in our public workshop to develop responses within a group.
Preview exhibition and registration - 5.30pm-6.15pm
Workshop starts at 6.30pm-8.30pm
If possible, please let us know if you can come
by sending us an email before the 5th March.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Sadly FPR, the last Labour government continued with the mantra adopted during the 80s
Home ownership = good
Social housing = bad
Owen Jones' book "Chavs" has a good analysis of this attitude if you're looking for some rather depressing reading over the weekend. -
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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Also councils are not permitted to make a profit from renting housing by law ( set by a Conservative government in the 1950s during the heyday of council house building by all parties) - rents are set to maintain properties and pay for their initial cost. As Michael says this is done within 30 odd years and then after that rent becomes a revenue stream from properties to maintain the estate. So, council rents are in fact what a normal rent would look like once you take profit out of the equation. What most people consider normal or market rent is in fact the profit that is taken by all those who live off the private rented sector. Moreover, rent in the private sector is more likely to be heavily subsidised by the tax payer through housing benefit , which of course goes to a landlord, for whom property is an asset on which they must realise a substantial profit in order to make it worth their while. Often, at the lower end, this profit is further increased by not maintaining the housing stock to a reasonable level - they are not even required by law to maintain a house fit for human habitation.
So what you mistake for subsidy is, in fact, how much it actually costs to build and maintain a home. What you believe is the normal or market rent is, in truth, largely profit. These people i.e landlords are actually the ones that are frequently heavily subsidised by the state through HB, (until recently) substantial tax breaks and other grants.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Why? What's wrong with the shopping centre ? What is going to be better than what we have now?
It's not going to affect me much since the Council want to stop Wood Green Outer residents parking in the Wood Green Inner zone. I won't be going to Shopping City much in future.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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Dump the car John and take one of those 2 wheeled trolleys that now seem to come in updated designs & colours, probably including a deserning gentlemans version just for you!
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Thanks for the compliment Matt. Unfortunately I can't walk more that 200 yards these days without pain. I don't think dragging a shopper would help
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OK, understand. Just rec'd the so called consultation. This change has been on the cards for about 5 years. Now the council needs the extra revenue ... is all this is about. Seriously expensive owning a car these days and not a whole lot of use in London the way all the restrictions are piling up!
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Permalink Reply by Finsbury Park Ranger on
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They're planning on making a ground level village type square and completely reinventing woodgreen.
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Shhh!
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I went to the exhibition today. Staffed by very nice people who don't mind answering questions.
But it's all pie in the sky. Ask a question a about the nitty gritty of how it's going to work and they say " well, that hasn't been decided yet " or " we need to do more work on that ".
The chap I talked to guessed that it would take 20 years to implement Option 4 , so I personally don't need to worry overmuch. He did say that alternative housing would be provided for residents " decanted " from the Shopping City apartments but when I asked how that would be possible, given that we can't properly house our existing population, he said that that was one of the details yet to be worked out.
When asked who would pay for the rebuilding, he said " the developers ". Which, since developers are not charitable institutions and exist to make a profit, means we pay for it through increased rents and more expensive goods and services.
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It's also worth bearing in mind that the big brick built thing in the middle of the whole shebang is owned or leased by these chaps
http://www.themall.co.uk
Don't know how that impacts on any plans though I would hardly think that Haringey would plough ahead with this unless they were on board.
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