Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
St Ann's Hospital Trees to be Felled
Haringey's latest planning applications list includes an easy to miss application which is likely to see the imminent felling of 32 trees on the grounds of St Ann's Hospital.
The application identifies 32 trees which are classed as dangerous and their removal is recommended. However, as I understand it, the actual application is for the removal of only ten trees at this point. Closer scrutiny may suggest another interpretation.
Whilst it may well be that these are simply trees that are past their useful life, I understand that local campaigners are already making links with the proposed development of the site for housing and are suspicious about the timing of this application.
The St Ann's Conservation Area Advisory Committee have told us that they are planning an investigatory walk with their own tree experts in the near future to make their own assessment of the situation.
Full planning application on Haringey Council's website. You can comment online or by mail.
Tags for Forum Posts: st ann's hospital, st ann's redevelopment, st ann's trees
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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It's part of a bigger picture Karen. I was at the Area Forum meeting on this and people are very aware of the health aspect. Cllr Brabazon spoke at length about the need to retain mental health services there. Truth is they want to sell part of the land for development. Trees with preservation orders get in the way, make the land less viable. This is part of a bigger picture but its not fair to say that campaigners are not interested in the health aspects. From the meetings I've been to, it is what people care about most.
David Browne (St Ann's Cllr) is onto this and I've written to Cllr Brabazon. I've also left a message with the Tree Trust.
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Permalink Reply by tigha on
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Some people maybe interested but it is not public interest for many and not something harinagay on line has discuseed much or been interested in, to my knowledge particularly, yet it affects hundreds of local residents in very personal ways. Councilors can talk as much as they like at metings about wanting to retain mantal health services along with other services but the reality everyone knows that is not happening andthey are just paying lip service
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The nature of many public services means that until people have to use them, they don't tend to give them much thought,I think. It's a case of 'you never miss your water, until your well runs dry'.
It's true that the issue of St Ann's hospital hasn't provoked the same kinds of heated debates on Harringay Online as parking tickets or the Arena but I think its not true to say that all councillors pay lip service to retaining mental health services, I do believe that Cllr Brabazon is very well versed on health issues, or that residents in general aren't interested.
The biggest problem with St Ann's development is we have little concrete confirmation of what is going to happen there. There's a lot of 'consultation' and 'exploration' but no one has yet confirmed what is going to happen or what we may lose there. It's hard to oppose the 'we just don't know' or 'its too early' attitude of the Mental Health Trust. All we can do is input and remain vigilant, as in the case of these trees, to any proposed changes. For what its worth, the strong message sent by the Area Forum was that health services are what people want to see there and no reduction in support for people with mental health problems. This discussion re the trees forms part of that vigilance.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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On a quick look Karen, I found two recent posts:
http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/the-future-of-st-ann-s-...
http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/the-future-of-st-ann-s-...
As you know our plafform is free for all to use.
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Permalink Reply by 2thfh47dr63xg on
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We really need to know more details about the work to the trees, the planning application seems confusing. Is it all 32 trees that are to be felled? To my knowledge, not much work has been done to the trees for some time, so I'm sure there are some that have dangerous branches or fungal disease, but 32? The Wild Service, as someone pointed out, are rare and wonderful trees. To have a group of mature and fruiting ones [yes, you can eat the fruit, though not very nice!] is most unusual, I don't think even Kew Gardens have anything like that. The Tree Trust for Haringey [www.ttfh.org.uk] are keeping an eye on what's going on. Whether any of this has to do with the St Anne's re-development is something else alltogether...
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Thanks for getting onto this, Peter. Grateful that there are people with a lot more knowhow than I have monitoring this.
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