Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Shisha bars must flag up health risks says Council
Smoking a shisha waterpipe for one hour involves inhaling 100 times the smoke inhaled from a single cigarette, warns Haringey's Cabinet Member for the Environment, Cllr Nilgun Canver,citing a message from the World Health Organisation, following council enforcement visits to shisha bars which uncovered over 60 kgms of contraband shisha tobacco.
In February council enforcement officers teamed up with Revenue and Customs and the police to tackle the legal issues surrounding shisha bars in the borough.
At one shisha bar in the Hornsey area they found an illegally enclosed smoking shelter which exposed staff and customers to secondary smoke. They also found that the shisha tobacco on offer to customers bore no health warnings, as is required by law. A search of the premises revealed over 56Kg of contraband shisha tobacco with a duty value of over £4,750. This was confiscated by HMRC as the required Tobacco Excise Duty had not been paid.
During another visit on the same evening to a retail stockist in Hornsey, 6Kg of contraband shisha tobacco, valued at over £509, was seized by HMRC. Again in this shop the tobacco on offer did not bear the required statutory health warnings.
Councillor Nilgun Canver, Cabinet Member for the Environment, said:
"The World Health Organisation says the use of shisha water pipes can be as dangerous if not more dangerous that smoking cigarettes. It is therefore vitally important that these premises, and the tobacco used in them, are subject to the same strict controls as cafes and pubs.
"Many young people use these pipes, often with fruit flavoured tobacco, and are completely unaware that they are inhaling something which is a risk to their health. That's why it's important that health warnings are displayed clearly. It's imperative that people know what they are inhaling”.
From Haringey Council Press Office
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Permalink Reply by 0hdfg7b325i7m on
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"OAE"-the police have never been interested in the smoking ban-that is until a nurse was raped after she was forced outside for a smokebreak, and a 'bouncer' was shot dead for abusing a smoker, then they got very interested. They stay out of the limelight with smoking simply because it is an emotive subject and one which seriously encroaches on peoples freedom of choice! I am a non smoker but I can see exactly where this is leading-and 'they' are using the majority of non smokers to strengthen their position; ie bullying and trying to eradicate smoking/smokers nationwide. It will of course fail because as with American prohibition it will simply exist 'underground' and the black market will thrive even more than at present.
This attack by people (puppets) like Councillor Nilgun Canver is only the start, you can trust me on that. The shisha people, nationwide have got to band together and not perform like the weak knee'd licensees did (not) 5 years ago. Proof? look at the pub industry now, it's in tatters and they'll be doing meals for £2 per head soon to try and get people through the doors! Shisha is a cultural thing and the culture has got to unite- NOW!
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Permalink Reply by Ruth on
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Not sure why the police should close down working men's clubs and I guess you are being a teeny weeny tongue in your quite wide cheek? They are the least likely places to have drug abuse and other such stuff going on. Law abiding places generally. The odd big of excitement over a bogey being called on bingo. A lot of older people in there but maybe being old has been outlawed whilst my back was turned. Do let me know...
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Ruth, I tried to respond an hour or so ago but it's disappeared. I guess Hol's nanny state has caught up with me.
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Nanny or Big Brother? The govt. wants to be able to get into our emails and texts don't they?
Oh well... We are quite open about our views here on HoL which is a good thing.
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Shisha bars are to much of the muslim community, what pubs used to offer the working man a place to meet friends and socialise.Shisha smoking is far safer than cigarette smoking as smoke is filtered through water.
Shisha bars usually only frequented by shisha smokers should restrict access to over 18s and should not have to comply with the smoking ban as the risk of second hand smoke from a shisha pipe is zero. Shame on the likes of government and Haringey council, they are not only persecuting smokers but fining and closing down these places taking away peoples social centres. The smoking ban has resulted in 10,000 pubs closing in the UK as many smokers have stopped going.
Shisha bars should stand together and fight this persecution and discrimination.
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Pubs, clubs, and shisha bars... all struggling and closing down. there are are other causes to the demise of some venues but the blanket ban on smoking is often seen as the last straw for many. As Phil says above, surely it should be about choice. The way things are going there shall be little choice- we'll all be home alone talking to other people via our computers as social venues will be a thing of the past. Non-smokers stop going out cus there are so few people where once was a thriving social life. I know many people who wont use pub/club gardens any more cus all the smokers are gathered there... so they stop going out. Irony upon irony.
It's not the case of reversing the law but having some room for flexibility, adaptation (like separate smoking rooms) and choice.
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