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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Haringey Council is looking to better understand the experience of women and girls in Haringey about their experiences after dark in the borough. To this end they are running a survey from yesterday until next Wednesday, 25th August.

The findings will be used to understand the nature of the problem in Haringey and to inform a bid to the Home Office’s Safety of Women at Night Fund, which if successful, will be used to support local interventions focused on preventing violence against women and girls in public spaces at night.

More and a link to the survey on the council website.

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It is difficult for the council to ask how safe we are relatively in the different parts of Haringey without being accused of racism. For example if we said we feel safer in Crouch End or Muswell Hill than Wood Green or Tottenham High Road some awkward conclusions might be drawn.

It asks us for suggestions on how to prevent ourselves from being attacked in restaurants. Is that really “going off at the deep end”? How am I supposed to know how to stop a man from groping/attacking/raping myself or any other women? Do you know? 

It does not ask for suggestions as to what YOU could do to prevent yourselves from being attacked. Your answers will be used to help the Council or other authorities to put in place local interventions  to stop you being attacked.

" The findings will be used to understand the nature of the problem in Haringey and to inform a bid to the Home Office’s Safety of Women at Night Fund, which if successful, will be used to support local interventions focused on preventing violence against women and girls in public spaces at night. "

Would you be able to suggest specific interventions you feel would help in certain locations that you consider unsafe?
Please fill in the boxes below for the different locations with any suggested solutions.”

It then provides a list of locations, such as pubs, restaurants, parks & bus stops. It’s asking women for suggestions about what WE could do to make ourselves safer. Spend the money on educating & rehabilitating men. It’s their responsibility to behave themselves, not mine.

And there I agree with you  ( last sentence )

Why don't you put that in as your answer to the consultation ?

I did.

Screen shot of an email I received today - for info

Who perpetrates these crimes and in what proportions? For example if we knew what proportion of reported crimes were committed locally by young Welsh men, Chinese/South East Asian students or middle aged Hindu men, for instance, then the police and council would be able to target their education campaigns. Such crimes are obviously committed by all groups, ethnicities and religions but are they are unlikely to be committed in the same proportions? Unless the answer is yes, non-targeted blanket efforts are unlikely to be successful. 

The government fund appears to focussed in physical measures, such as better lighting in areas that have been identified

That's a shame. I expect physical environment is only part of the problem and that the main changes required are those of assumptions, expectations and culture among the small sub sets of manhood who commit these crimes. After all, in an ideal world, a young woman should feel as safe walking down the darkest alleyway in Tottenham as they would be strolling along the well lit streets of a quiet provincial market town.

That’s true but a few thousand quid isn’t going to change that

Exactly. Efforts need to be focused on men; their suggestions on their behaviour change & enforcing/prosecuting what they/police to consider to be ‘minor’ issues. In the meantime, if the council really are serious about making public spaces safer then a night curfew for all men is needed. 

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