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Removal of Daily Parking Vouchers | Have your say Now - Deadline November 13th

Hi All,

Following on from all the previous discussion, I just received an email about the removal of Daily Visitor permits etc,  giving me the chance to comment.

https://new.haringey.gov.uk/parking/consultations-parking/have-your...

I have emailed my objection to:

traffic.orders@haringey.gov.uk

Citing:

1. It making it more expensive.

2. More onerous in terms of having to keep booking

3. That it obviously won't stop misuse - if a "good" permit holder can book 12 x hourly visitor permits then so can a "bad" permit holder - especially when they're motivated by financial gain.

Let's try an win this one!

(and Hugh please feel free to move this post as you see fit)

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Found I can't correct it now. Sorry all.

Niall, can you please post the accurate current reference? 

Thank you. 

I hereby declare myself a Minister of Religion

Well. Ian McKellen conducted the wedding of Patrick Stewart some years ago - are you offering a similar service? Mind you, you might have to foot it/fly it to Nevada...    ;-)

https://www.vulture.com/2013/09/patrick-stewart-sunny-ozell-wedding...

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I thought it was 11 hours 8:00-18:30 ? It does not make it "better" imho I guess I am not in "inner" its not just the extra hours its the additional day for them.

I suggest you also email haringey ward councils to express your disappointed they just rubber stamped this rather than actually representing our interests.

https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgFindMember.aspx?XXR=0&AC=...

James, in Wood Green inner zone, charges apply 0800 to 2200 seven days a week.

The email blithely states:

"Remove Daily Visitor Permits
Proposal: to remove the option of daily visitor parking permits.

Additional information: residents would still able to access hourly permits for their visitors. This would be intended to prevent the permits being used for other than their intended purpose."

NO reference to limiting the number of hourly permits to 40 a YEAR.

"Subsequent permit charging
Proposal: to introduce a new permit surcharge structure for additional permits.

Additional information: the more permits that a household purchases, the higher the surcharge will be. It will also be applied across other types of permits, whereas at the moment a flat-fee surcharging only applies to resident permits."

This is new (to me), and utterly opaque. What types of permits, and so on.

I think that second quote is referring to subsequent annual (or 6 month) vehicle permits, so increasing costs to households with multiple cars at one address. "Permit" is used so widely across the doc it gets confusing. In the full policy doc it lays out on p18: £65 surcharge for the second vehicle permit, up to £260 for a 5th vehicle and beyond.

Would also add (credit to Caitlin in the other thread) that the initial Cabinet decision to remove daily vistior permits in July did not mention capping numbers.

I find the insertion of this cap into the final wording, and then not mentioning in the summary of changes or adding any detail of why this cap is needed, pretty concerning. Is the Council trying to shoehorn this in with no one noticing?

What I fear from this one is its the thin edge of the wedge and they will charge a surcharge to use 2 hourly tickets at the same time... even more for the 3rd etc.... 

In reference to the process, I messaged our ward councilors and Dana Carlin responded that they did not believe the consultation process applies as they believe the process only applies to CPZ boundary and timing changes and not pricing for CPZ. I notice they were also present at the meeting these changes were approved by the council. I did highlight the problem of builders under the need system and that 3 days. 7 hours was not enough time, and they said they would look into it.

Hugh, perhaps you could link this somewhere to the previous thread so that anyone who may have missed that can read the full discussion?

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