Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Please Help Us Raise £700 to Fund a Leaflet Printrun
For those of you who are active on HoL, you'll be very much aware of Haringey Council's transport study. This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity for all Harringay's residents to have their say on how best to reduce our excessive traffic burden. To that end, we want to ensure that all residents are FULLY informed on the options available.
Unlike Haringey Council, we do not have a juggernaut PR system pushing our message, or the money to pay for it. So we are asking for your help. We want to raise money to fund a print run of leaflets for Wightman and all the Ladder roads, plus other events to raise awareness.
If you'd like to help us raise funds for the second phase of our campaign; to create a safer, healthier, happier Harringay for everyone, then please click the link below which will take you to our Just Giving page.
Thank you.
Yes, I would like to help raise £700 to fund leaflets If you'd like more information, or get involved, please check out our Living Wightman Blog or Facebook Page.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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I think a bet on implementation rather than which option garners the most votes is the right one Antionette. After all, it's a consultation not a referendum. Ultimately Haringey will try to go for one that combines what they can afford, how it fits their future plans and what has at least a modicum of public support (and not necessarily the greatest public support). I think that all of us, what ever preference or lack of preference we have, need to be prepared for that.
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Permalink Reply by AndrewAW1 on
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I think added to that can be Haringey's past and current commitment to cutting down on motor vehicle use, modal shift, air quality, etc
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Permalink Reply by Gina Fenton on
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OMG this statement reveals your selfish motives! Yes it would be nice if you had bought your house in a cul-de-sac but you haven't! If you live on Wightman Road you live on a busy through route, which it always has been. Many people around and about need to use it - it doesn't ONLY belong to the people who live there!
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That argument would have merit but for the fact that there are post hoc gates, barriers and cul de sacs everywhere in London as a result of councils deference to residents of this nature. Living Wightman has every right to make such a request which it is fine for anyone to oppose but surely are not "selfish".
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Permalink Reply by Karen Alexander on
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We bought our house on Wightman Road 21 years ago. It was no where near as busy as it is now - it has increasing become so as other areas have been protected. We are just asking for what other areas have - that is not being selfish!
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Gina I think John had his tongue in his cheek.
Although, there may well be an effect on the Wightman and ladder house prices. They could go the other way of coarse, when it becomes pedestrianised and folk have to walk down to green lanes to pick up their Ocado boxes.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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The Ocado driver always finds a way through!
For the record, I think house prices going up is only good for people who own as many houses as they intend to have grandchildren.
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Karen: Saying that Wightman Road has become much busier “as others areas have been protected” precisely encapsulates the issue - it’s exactly what happens when you close roads in one area and just shift the problem to adjacent streets that are already overloaded. On the traffic study map, Wightman closure is shown to have a huge impact not only across Harringay but far beyond - up to the North Circular, down to and beyond Finsbury Park, and way over to Archway Road one way and Great Cambridge Road the other. Even TfL’s figures, published on HoL during last year’s closure, showed that bus journeys on Green Lanes were anything from 28% to 69% slower at key times than before the closure and everyone can remember the horrendous log-jams in GL most of the time.
It might not be a deliberate intention of Wightman and Ladder residents to be selfish, but the effect of the preferred solution would just be to shift the problem sideways onto GL and cause disruption and misery to a wider area. There is a basic geographical problem in Harringay, with the railway an impenetrable barrier on the west and existing controls blocking safety-valve routes to the east, so the majority of traffic is already funnelled onto GL. Last year’s experience shows that closure of Wightman would effectively seize up a main artery that’s already sclerotic; it’s a purely localised intervention with huge impact on neighbouring areas, when what’s needed is a wide-ranging re-think of traffic management across the whole borough - probably starting at the North Circular and Seven Sisters ends of our section of GL.
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Well said don,
Was it a year ago or more? I can't remember, but I did suggest the problem started well beyond harringay.
It's controlling entry to within the north circ and firstly the m25 which is the problem.
Anyone ever seen the traffic heading south on the M11, A10 etc. Every morning?
A lot of those guys revel at living in the countryside but drive in to London for work. They don't live with the resultant poor air quality they leave behind, but love the higher wages polluting London brings.
No one seems interested though, not on here anyway, Neither Mayor Khan, big boris or cuddly Ken before them.
Micro solutions are the order of the moment.
I've already ordered big fancy gilded gates and security for "" The Woodlands Park Estate""" bought some red deer as well.
Glorious 12th anyone? Or is that pheasant.? Got my tweeds tho.
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