Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
People going through bins
Has anyone been having any issues with people going through their bins? We're on Roseberry Gardens and have twice asked people (one man, one woman) to stop rifling through our bins.
Today someone has come and removed our bin bags from the wheelie bins and torn them open.
Thanks,
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Permalink Reply by Geraldine on
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I agree. Since the onset of identity fraud, I have bought a shredder. All my documents are sorted and I am obsessive about shredding anything that contains my name. Everyone should be doing this, and quite honestly, whether envelopes are pulled from bins by scavengers - who may simply be looking for money - or in a more sinister way by professional fraudsters, if you chuck documents in your bin in their entirety, you've only yourself to blame if your identity is stolen.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Not so sure about that Geraldine. The victim of crime is not to blame, the criminal is.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Go on then - how do you propose to " educate " them ? I find shouting at them works
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Permalink Reply by Kieran Cullen on
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Why are you concerned about people going through your bins?
Identify theft is easy to protect against.
If people are able to recycle your stuff and make something from it then good luck to them surely?
What is the problem?
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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There has been an ongoing interest in the issue on the site for several years now.
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Apart from the intrusion, the bin raiders drag bags out of the bins and don't bother to put them back when they find nothing of interest.
Then it's party time for the foxes and the rats.
That's why.
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Permalink Reply by Ruth on
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There was a shed load of discussion on this issue last year… It's something that keeps happening and lots of views were shared on it.
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Permalink Reply by Jon Appleyard on
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I spoke to the police with regards to the legalities of it and was told it's not strictly illegal to search through property that we have discarded but that if notified on 101 they will attend and talk to those responsible.
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Permalink Reply by Sarah_24 on
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Interesting piece on the bbc site about this...it appears to be a bit of a grey area but ultimately we retain ownership of our rubbish so if someone takes it it is illegal from what I read. Extract below.
According to the law in England and Wales: "A person commits theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it."
Just because someone throws something away, does not mean they don't own it. So if it can be proven that the property that was thrown away had a rightful owner, it would be illegal to take it.
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and as the bins are on private property, surely that is illegal too? But a grey area indeed and from the last time round, there is a wide diversity of views on this subject.
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Permalink Reply by Lydia R on
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I remember a case reported in the papers when a young woman was arrested for just that.
A Tescos Express in Essex had a freezer accident and put a lot of ready meals out in a crate to be thrown away. The woman picked up an armful of the stuff to take home and the next morning the local cops knocked on her door and dragged her off --in handcuffs!
This is the story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13037808
I thought that Tescos were being beastly and have not shopped in my local Tesco's since then. The woman clearly wasn't doing them any harm. However the law is there and was applied in that instance. So, if the police say there is nothing they can do, perhaps quoting this example might have some effect. I don't think they would like to be accused of protecting only the interests of big business.
Apart from that, if someone is standing in your garden, whether rummaging in your bins or not, surely they are trespassing, at the very least and possibly harrassing you as well.
Lydia Rivlin — so nauseated by vote rigging in the wards, venality in the Council, shenanigans in the Planning Department and disorganisation in the Social Services, that I signed up to fight it all by becoming a Conservative candidate in the May elections. One thing about the Tories—they haven’t been corrupted by power round here.
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That's an interesting but different case. What Tescos threw out was originally for sale, it had a price on it, so taking it without paying, even though they were chucking it away, was stealing.
I doubt the law is the same for people taking stuff from our bins which we were not trying to sell for a profit before we discarded it, if you see what I mean.
I once innocently picked up a Sunday newspaper from a pile of returns outside a building near Old Street, late on a Sunday night. I thought, they will just go to be recycled, no one can sell them now. The security guy from that building came up to me and shouted, 'put that back, it's private property and I'll call the police if you don't'….. I put it back.
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