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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 ... so Wightman Rd ...

 ... can surely be closed to through traffic in the future, as it currently is during the bridge works. If the planners can deal with the re-routing of all those buses and taxi journeys away from Oxford Street for the pedestrianisation plans, it must be possible to do this for Wightman Road as well.

Living Wightman would do well to have a chat with the new Mayor's office.

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Hi Justin, what do you think about suggesting to the council that we need another Ladder group to be on the council's traffic steering group if your group is so pressed for time?

In the meantime, if you've seriously not the time to keep informed the various people and groups which the council says your traffic group represents then let me volunteer to be your traffic group secretary and I can do that for you.

Lets separate the two issues here guys.

The Document:

It will be released to wider circulation when we feel it is ready. I do not think that is unreasonable. All we have asked for is a little breathing space.

Accountability:

What I do-I report to the LCSP membership (as a body), and I make myself available to scrutiny under appropriate circumstance to any member or fellow Harringay resident (on either side of Green Lanes).

What I do not do- respond to demands by (3) users of HoL because they feel they have a  grievance that I have tried very hard to respond reasonably to. Hop up and down as much as you like guys...

If anyone has a problem with anything I have done feel free to bring it up in the appropriate forum, and vote me off/stand yourself and make yourselves accountable.

BTW. Does anyone know who the defender of democratic virtue J.Talyor (or is is S.Hartwright) is...

BTW,

It will be released to wider circulation when we feel it is ready.

Who is "we", and how do we get to be included in that? I'm an LCSP member and Ladder resident may I be included in the discussion around it please?

And I'm not accusing you, I'm offering to help.

It would appear that the whatdotheyknow.com requester has reinstated their FOI request to Haringey Council for a copy of the submitted version of the report.  The Council now have until 26th August to come up with a response.  If consulted, I do hope that LCSP or whoever it was who submitted the report does not attempt to frustrate the release of the document under FOI, because I would consider that highly suspicious.  For me, the copy that was submitted to the Council is the only version that matters, so that's what I will wait to see.

Maybe throw in a biscuit Justin??
Not failing in anything Jessica; have been involved with this from the start, so take it very seriously.

Like you, we also have lives to lead so popping round for a cuppa is not really want I want to do.  As I said before, if it was ready enough to be submitted to the Council, it's ready enough for the rest of us to see.  I also what to see the actual version as sent to the Council, not a draft nor a version which has subsequent amendments, but the actual version sent to the Council.  Perhaps the only sure fire way of getting that is to ask the Council for it under FOI.

Oh how the plot thickens.....  I went to the whatdotheyknow FOI request website ready to submit my request and found this request was submitted but then also withdrawn just today.....

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ladder_community_safety_part...

28 July 2016

Dear Haringey Borough Council,

Could you please provide the original document sent to the Council by the Ladder Community Safety Partnership (LCSP) entitled 'Fresh Start' . The document relates to traffic issues in and around Harringay ward. I believe this document was submitted during the week ending July 22nd.

Unfortunately, the group which submitted the document (LSCP) has not been forthcoming in making it public to those whose views it purports to represent.

That's all nice and well, but us Green Lanes residents have had to put up with horrible amounts of traffic thanks to the slowest road works in the world, so the sooner Wrightman road gets its traffic back, the better! Enjoy the quiet while it lasts...

Also I've done a quick survey and 99% of Green Lanes residents are all for the pedestrianisation of Green Lanes and for all the traffic to be re-routed to Wightman Road: at least we have enough shops and restaurants to justify it ;)

I wonder if GL could have much wider pavements like in Wood Green - with off street loading bays in restricted hours, and places for buses to pull in. Two good lanes moving at say 15mph rather than the current stop-start caused by so many parking and turning movements, bunched traffic lights, etc.

Joe - It's only from observation, not measurement, but isn't Wood Green High Road (aka GL) much wider to begin with than our stretch? If the pavements were extended in the same way between the Salisbury and the Arena, say, surely GL would be reduced to a single-track road, so either the traffic jams would run all the way from Newington Green to the North Circular or Wightman would suffer gridlock the like of which even it's never seen!

One of the greatest problems even in normal times is the pinch-point at the railway bridge, exacerbated by the failure of the Arena/GL/Endymion junctions (why aren't there even filter lights for northbound traffic into Williamson and southbound into Endymion?); it's a major contributor to the normal traffic sloth, let alone what's been happening all through the temporary Wightman closure. 

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