Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
No to the wheelies? (especially on Wightman Rd)
Okay, okay, I know its the Mail but do they have a point?
Are wheelies always the answer to getting rid of our waste? Personally, I'd like a smaller one as I rarely have more than one bag of rubbish, but I don't think that's an option.
In a recent discussion at LCSP, it was pointed out that wheelies were impractical for some properties on Wightman Rd due to steps in front of the properties and the difficulty that older people might have in getting them over steps, with the result they are left on pavements and obstruct pedestians. It was suggested that the old style lidded bins would be more suitable and on a walk up there I noticed that many people had little brick 'shelters' for that style of bin which are now useless.
Maybe a little flexibility needed? Very often binmen don't take the whole wheelie to the truck if there is only one bag, so what's the difference if it's in an old style bin?
More here (don't worry, your hand won't whither if you click through to a Mail article)
Campaign against the wheelie
update : my dinky new bin
Are wheelies always the answer to getting rid of our waste? Personally, I'd like a smaller one as I rarely have more than one bag of rubbish, but I don't think that's an option.
In a recent discussion at LCSP, it was pointed out that wheelies were impractical for some properties on Wightman Rd due to steps in front of the properties and the difficulty that older people might have in getting them over steps, with the result they are left on pavements and obstruct pedestians. It was suggested that the old style lidded bins would be more suitable and on a walk up there I noticed that many people had little brick 'shelters' for that style of bin which are now useless.
Maybe a little flexibility needed? Very often binmen don't take the whole wheelie to the truck if there is only one bag, so what's the difference if it's in an old style bin?
More here (don't worry, your hand won't whither if you click through to a Mail article)
Campaign against the wheelie
update : my dinky new bin
Tags for Forum Posts: Wightman Road, bins on wightman, wheelie bins
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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In some parts of the country like in Ipswich where my parents live, they have 3 different ones which is excessive if you haven't got much of a garden.
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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Liz, thanks for highlighting the Wheelie Bin Obstacle Course (aka Wightman Road pavement/footway).
But at least these are wheeled obstructions with a certain limited mobility.
I'm working on a design for a range of Wheelie Decks/Extensions/Gazebos/Pavilions, with extractor fans and central vacuuming facility for ciggiebutts, with the Vineyard*/Shelton/Salisbury/GardenLadder/OAE smokingdiner in mind. Please pass the word.
btw Did you know that in Mexico 'La Vina' is also slang for 'rubbish dump'?
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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I'm mystified about this. The original contract with Accord stipulated three sizes of wheelie bin. Which could be switched without a charge. Successful recycling plainly means that many people will need a smaller wheelie bin. Conversely, larger families, out of control conversions, and multi-occupation of homes (even 'hot bedding') demand more or larger bins.
It should never take "a month or so"; nor nagging. This is frustrating, expensive and wasteful 'failure demand'. It makes no sense either for residents nor for Haringey Enterprise. I've made a 'councillor's Inquiry' asking the up-to-date position.
Can I please request that anyone trying to get a smaller or larger bin keeps a copy of the email they send. And jots down any nagging they do. Then either post it on HoL and/or copy me: alan.stanton@virgin.net
We must crack this problem. At a meeting on 17 June with Tottenham Hale residents most people saw the lack of enough sufficient space as the cause of much of the street dumping. In other words, households seem to be filling-up the bins they have and dumping the surplus on the street.
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Permalink Reply by Alison P on
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Thanks Anne - had no idea. Our bin drives me mad, its such a waste of space. I'll report it now (and cc it to Alan, if you're sure!).
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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We got our monster one changed to the slimmer size without problems (mind you, my partner David is, shall we say, "assertive" about these matters!)
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I had a bit of a problem with Haringey Accord (as was) a while ago - apparently the binmen were having trouble getting our wheelie bins through the garden gate, so rather than telling us, just gave up emptying it entirely.
Following much nagging, they decided to solve the issue by removing our bins, but after getting a councillor involved, someone came up with the brighter idea of a smaller wheelie bin.
So, yes, it should be possible, but as Alan suggests, shouldn't really be as much hassle as that.
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I had a reply today (22 June) from Waste Management to my councillor's inquiry about switching wheeled bins.
The three sizes are: 240 litres (standard); 120 litres; and 360 litres. The 120 litres bin is reckoned to take two full black rubbish bags. And they said it's slightly lower than the standard size.
The bad news is that switching will take up to ten working days following the day you call Haringey Enterprise. This is because they first send someone round to check-out your front garden/yard etc. Why check if someone is getting a smaller bin? Because they often get calls from residents who say they had a bin - but did not. So they want to make sure there's enough room.
The good news is that switching is still free!
So that's the system. Now please check that it's working smoothly.
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The new bin arrived yesterday. I'd never call a wheelie bin sweet, but it does have a certain charm and is certainly less obtrusive than the big one. I make that eleven working days Alan, so they are nearly hitting their ten day target.
Not hard to sort out - one email only (though I wonder how much having Alan cc-d in on the emails helped?!).
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Thanks Alison, for letting us all know. Anyone else like to test the bin-switching system and report back afterwards?
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Mine arrived about 2 weeks after the request went in (on my birthday, nice present from Enterprise). It's dinky.
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Just a word of warning though, if you forget to wheel your dinky new bin to the gate and leave it unobtrusively nestling against the garden wall, the binmen will probably fail to see it but knowing that each house needs at least one bin will leave you one of your neighbouring HMOs spare ones (luckily this one had an address to return it to).
However, a simple phone call to Enterprise got it emptied this morning.
If they do miss your bin, don't put up with it, ring (don't email, not as effective) 0800 072 4585 and request a collection. Make sure you get a job reference number too.
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